Confirmed with Link: Mike Komisarek cleared Waivers in AHL

Daisy Jane

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Maybe... maybe if he works with Eakins for a while, he'll polish his game, come up, and we'll trade him :)
 

Duke Silver

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My friend, they alter league rules because 2 teams took that risk stance, just sayen.

Plus we need to add atleast what 10/11 contracts next year?

Kadri 3.5/4m?
Frans 3.0/3.5m?
Gunnar 3.0/3.5?
Kamo 1.5/2m?
Fras 1.5m all RFA s

Boz 4/5m?
Mac 2.5/3.0m?
Orr 1m?
Kots, league min? ufa s

Thats 20m long gone with 9 tracts.

Unless you can point me to somewhere that states the compliance buyout was introduced because teams were afraid of their buyout candidates being injured, what you're saying is conjecture. In all likelihood these teams just wanted to quickly get out from under contracts that were hampering their team financially from a cap space perspective. Subban's signing likely had much to do with Gomez's departure.

MacA, Orr and Kostka likely wont be re-signed and your valuations for all our RFAs are on the high end. The ~20M figure already takes into account that Komi is on next year's roster, by the way. The Leafs will trade Bozak before they give him $4M+.
 

Parkdale

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Unless you can point me to somewhere that states the compliance buyout was introduced because teams were afraid of their buyout candidates being injured, what you're saying is conjecture. In all likelihood these teams just wanted to quickly get out from under contracts that were hampering their team financially from a cap space perspective. Subban's signing likely had much to do with Gomez's departure.

Not conjecture, this was widely reported at the time that this was the underlining motivation leading to the introduction of the "accelerated" version of the compliance buyouts. Just google it if you have any doubts. Also if you go to capgeek, you will see that Redden's and Gomez's cap hits (minus minimum salary amount of $900,000) for this season are still on the books for NYR and Montreal respectively. This was one of the provisions of the accelerated version, that this years cap hits would not disappear, but would for future seasons. So you can see that cap relief this season was not the motivation as you have speculated.
 

Duke Silver

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Not conjecture, this was widely reported at the time that this was the underlining motivation leading to the introduction of the "accelerated" version of the compliance buyouts. Just google it if you have any doubts. Also if you go to capgeek, you will see that Redden's and Gomez's cap hits (minus minimum salary amount of $900,000) for this season are still on the books for NYR and Montreal respectively. This was one of the provisions of the accelerated version, that this years cap hits would not disappear, but would for future seasons. So you can see that cap relief this season was not the motivation as you have speculated.

Must have missed that. Just read something in The Star about that. Apologies, Faltorvo.

Anyways, the difference between Gomez/Redden and Komisarek is that Leafs management may feel Komisarek could a) plausibly play for the Leafs again, or b) turn himself into a tradeable asset (we're talking a 7th rounder here), which is why they're willing to risk the chance he gets a serious, long-term injury that prevents them from buying him out in the summer.
 
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Faltorvo

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Must have missed that. Just read something in The Star about that. Apologies, Faltorvo.

Anyways, the difference between Gomez/Redden and Komisarek is that Leafs management may feel Komisarek could a) plausibly play for the Leafs again, or b) turn himself into a tradeable asset (we're talking a 7th rounder here), which is why they're willing to risk the chance he gets a serious, long-term injury that prevents them from buying him out in the summer.

No need to apologies DS all you did what question my stance, it's not like you made it a personal attack :).

Both Redden and Gomez got told to stay at home, both had been informed that they was to be amnestied but since the fine print states that you can not amn a injured player, neither team was interested in taking that risk.

The league and PA had a emerge meeting to change the rules a little.

I don't see the value in a late pick , when it's weighed against what the worst case could turn into.
 

hockeywiz542

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http://www.montrealgazette.com/spor...y+Komisarek+treated+fairly/8139011/story.html

Komisarek became expendable because the Leafs — specifically former general manager Brian Burke — made a mistake back in 2009 when they lured the free-agent defenceman away from the Canadiens with a five-year deal worth $22.5 million.

That was about $7.5 million more than the Canadiens were willing to pay because they had a better read on Komisarek’s skill-set. Much of Komisarek’s success with the Canadiens stemmed from his partnership with Andrei Markov. Komisarek was free to hit people and block shots, and it didn’t matter if he was caught out of position because Markov was there to cover for him.

Komisarek didn’t move the puck out of the zone very well, either, but that didn’t matter because he only had to look to Markov.

This is not to say Komisarek wasn’t an NHL defenceman; he simply wasn’t a guy worth $4.5 million a season. But Burke paid a free-agent premium because he only saw that Komisarek was among the league leaders in both hits and blocked shots and fit in with the plan to make the Leafs bigger and tougher.

When the Canadiens visited Toronto last month, a reporter asked Komisarek if regretted leaving Montreal. He smiled as he said: “No.”

It was the right answer. There’s no telling whether things would have worked better here, particularly in light of Markov’s injuries. And while Komisarek isn’t happy on the sidelines, there’s some consolation in the fact he is being well compensated.

When people talk about pro sports as a business, it’s usually in the context of a player being cut or traded. In Komisarek’s case, the business has been favourable to him and he will have collected close to $17 million over the past four seasons.

The hope now is that Komisarek — who is an affable and decent person with a strong work ethic — can get his career back on track. He’ll be reporting to the Toronto Marlies in the American Hockey League and, while it’s likely the Leafs will buy out the final year of his contract this summer, Komisarek will get an opportunity to audition for other teams.

Komisarek might not be as good as the Leafs thought he was when they signed him, but he’s too good to have spent the past 21 games as a healthy scratch.
 

htpwn

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That was about $7.5 million more than the Canadiens were willing to pay because they had a better read on Komisarek’s skill-set

:laugh: What?

Apparently Montreal media has trouble verifying their facts:

Earlier in the day, the Canadiens had reportedly offered Komisarek a five-year, $20 million offer.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283452

Burke offered a mere $500,000 more per season. So much for the Canadiens having "a better read" on Komisarek's abilities.
 

darrylsittler27

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Nobody else in the NHl wants this guy.

And Burke gave him how much? I am actually starting to think Burke overpaid for Kessel not to endear himself to his buddies and Campbell,but just because he was that stupid.
 

TieClark

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And Burke gave him how much? I am actually starting to think Burke overpaid for Kessel not to endear himself to his buddies and Campbell,but just because he was that stupid.
gtfo with this nonsense. Damn near every team in the league wanted the guy when Burke signed him.
 

zeke

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Yep, Burke wasn't the only GM guilty of dishing out that kind of money for an overrated "defensive defenseman".

Even Lamoriello got conned by Volchenkov.
 

Rants Mulliniks

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:laugh: What?

Apparently Montreal media has trouble verifying their facts:



http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283452

Burke offered a mere $500,000 more per season. So much for the Canadiens having "a better read" on Komisarek's abilities.

:laugh:

My first thought as well.

The majority of their fanbase wanted to spend more than Toronto did to retain him as well and he turned down a more lucrative offer from NYI.

Short memories.....
 

htpwn

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And Burke gave him how much? I am actually starting to think Burke overpaid for Kessel not to endear himself to his buddies and Campbell,but just because he was that stupid.

5 years/$22.5 million or as I wrote, $500,000 more per year than what Montreal offered. Hardly a significant sum.
 

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