Mike Bossy or Bill Cook?

Big Phil

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No disrespect to Cook who gets forgotten as another great right winger but Bossy takes the cake on this one. Bossy got it done in the playoffs like few players in NHL history
 

JackSlater

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Bossy gets extra credit for achieving what he did against a larger talent pool, so I went with him.
 

Zil

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Seems kinda like a random comparison to make. They played in completely different eras and it's doubtful anyone on these boards has ever seen Cook play.
 

Big Phil

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Seems kinda like a random comparison to make. They played in completely different eras and it's doubtful anyone on these boards has ever seen Cook play.

No, they haven't. But Bossy did seem to compare a bit better to his peers of his era which is no knock on Cook. Even if you didn't see Cook play, that is something you can definitely draw comparisons from when looking at their careers.
 

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No, they haven't. But Bossy did seem to compare a bit better to his peers of his era which is no knock on Cook. Even if you didn't see Cook play, that is something you can definitely draw comparisons from when looking at their careers.

Cook compared better to his peers than bossy, and it isn't a question. Cook was in all likelihood the 2nd best forward in the world after Morenz at the time.

But bossy's peers were definitely stronger. Hoe much stronger is the question.

Leaning towards Bossy because of playoffs, but I'd like to see someone make the case for Cook.
 

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Cook compared better to his peers than bossy, and it isn't a question. Cook was in all likelihood the 2nd best forward in the world after Morenz at the time.

But bossy's peers were definitely stronger. Hoe much stronger is the question.

Leaning towards Bossy because of playoffs, but I'd like to see someone make the case for Cook.

who were all these peers better than Bossy? Gretzky?
 

Big Phil

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Cook compared better to his peers than bossy, and it isn't a question. Cook was in all likelihood the 2nd best forward in the world after Morenz at the time.

But bossy's peers were definitely stronger. Hoe much stronger is the question.

Leaning towards Bossy because of playoffs, but I'd like to see someone make the case for Cook.

Not debating that, but I know you didn't forget about the Gretzky/Bossy comparison either. Depending on how a person views Trottier, there probably wasn't a better player, let alone forward, in the NHL than Bossy after Gretzky of course.
 

Big Phil

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Also, with Bossy and Cook here are their top 10 points finishes

Bossy - 2, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6

Cook - 1, 1, 4, 4, 4, 7, 10

I would certainly not say there is little question that Cook was better against his peers than Bossy. This sample tells a different story, they are very close in these regards
 

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Also, with Bossy and Cook here are their top 10 points finishes

Bossy - 2, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6

Cook - 1, 1, 4, 4, 4, 7, 10

I would certainly not say there is little question that Cook was better against his peers than Bossy. This sample tells a different story, they are very close in these regards

Cook only started playing in the NHL at age 28 - how many top 10 finishes did Bossy have from that point on?

Before that, Cook was tearing it up in a comparable professional league.
 

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Cook only started playing in the NHL at age 28 - how many top 10 finishes did Bossy have from that point on?

Before that, Cook was tearing it up in a comparable professional league.

Also, cook was a power forward and team captain, both not measures in stats.

There is definitely a case for either man.
 

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Cook only started playing in the NHL at age 28 - how many top 10 finishes did Bossy have from that point on?

Before that, Cook was tearing it up in a comparable professional league.
Right on. just looking at NHL top 10 finishes, Cook is ahead. When you bring in the Western League, Cook blows him away. I voted Cook. Bossy winning this poll by so much is voters not looking past the guy they are familiar with.
 

Killion

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They played in completely different eras and it's doubtful anyone on these boards has ever seen Cook play.

Freddy, Bill n'Boucher'?. The Bread Line?. Oh sure.... Which reminds me, Ive gotta get some Polident. Lost my upper plate chewing on a Bun the other day.
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Big Phil

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Right on. just looking at NHL top 10 finishes, Cook is ahead. When you bring in the Western League, Cook blows him away. I voted Cook. Bossy winning this poll by so much is voters not looking past the guy they are familiar with.

Although the playoff portfolio of Bossy is hard to ignore
 

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Although the playoff portfolio of Bossy is hard to ignore

Yeah but no one from cook's era has a deep playoff resume, that needs to be considered. When you factor in that west coast players dominated the nhl scoring race in the 1926-27 season, it is possible that cook was probably the best scorer from 1924-1927.
 

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I found a picture of Bill Cook on google, does this make me qualified to give my opinion on him? lol

billcook.jpg
 

Zil

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Yeah but no one from cook's era has a deep playoff resume, that needs to be considered. When you factor in that west coast players dominated the nhl scoring race in the 1926-27 season, it is possible that cook was probably the best scorer from 1924-1927.

As long as we're going to have this absurd comparison, it's worth noting that Cook had quite the playoff resume. He won two Stanley Cups and became the first player in NHL history to score a cup-winning goal in OT in 1933.
 

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Well you're supposed to rank players based on how good they were compared to their peers so I see no conceivable way Bossy is the better player in an all-time sense. Anyone care to explain otherwise?
 

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Well you're supposed to rank players based on how good they were compared to their peers so I see no conceivable way Bossy is the better player in an all-time sense. Anyone care to explain otherwise?

Bossy was probably better in the playoffs. That's really about it.

I finally ended up voting "tied" for what it's worth.
 

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