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I don't think people would be as upset if he's willing to return the bonus money he got for signing a contract that he's not fulfilling.
Player Discussion Mikael Wikstrand part 2 AKA Karlsson 2.0
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ChocolateLeclaire
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This.
No one is faulting him for choosing family over money. Datsyuk did the exact same thing. The difference is Pavel didn't take the Wings money.
Wikstrand signed a deal, found out he would have to play in Bingo, then fled in the night to avoid being assigned there. And he kept his bonus money.
He's got poor character.
Micklebot
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Pretty sure that Datsyuk collected 7 mil in signing bonuses on his current contract that he won't be honouring the final year of. Nobody is asking for that cash to be returned.
The think is, outside of this season, he's fulfilled his contract obligations. I don't agree with how he went about things, but it is what it is.
I'm not overly concerned with other peoples money but I'm also not sure how his signing bonus works when he's loaned to an SHL team (do they pay it if his SHL salary exceeds what we would have paid him?). It could very well be that the sens didn't spend much if anything on him in terms of salary/signing bonus so there very well may be nothing to pay back.
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Pretty sure he worked at Coop, as there are no whole foods in Sweden to my knowledge. You can as Baby Ryan as he just took a job there
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aragorn
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Melnyk is going to sue him to get his money back, it's what he & other rich people do, ask Trump.
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For Datsyuk, he doesn't get a signing bonus in addition to his base salary. Because signing bonuses aren't put into escrow, he can earn more money by reducing his base salary and replacing it with a bonus (check our Ryan O'Reilly's contract if you want to see a very player friendly structure). So in year one of his current three year deal, he earned 5 mill in base and a 5 million signing bonus. Year two he earned 5 mill in base and a 2 mill signing bonus. For year three (the one he will not be honouring), he won't be collecting a signing bonus and thus won't be taking money without honouring his deal. It puts the Wings in a terrible spot with regard to the cap but he's not just taking the money and walking.
The Wikstrand situation is different. According to Cap Friendly, signing bonuses on entry level contracts are paid annually. So, Wikstrand was paid $80, 000 in 2014, and then another $80, 000 in 2015 before he upped and left for Sweden without ever having played a game for the Sens. Look, obviously he's decided that he doesn't want to come over and play in NA which, whatever, it's his career. But the Sens are right to be furious with this kid and he should without question pay them back. What he's done is wrong on so many levels. I would sue.
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Trump uses his lawyers to destroy people who have hurt his feelings. Melnyk has a legitimate grievance.
Qward
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His ELC bonus was 80k paid out on July 1st each year for three years. If he signed with a Swedish team to a contract that supersedes ours then we do not need to fulfill our obligation since he has no intent on fulfilling his. As for the money already given, the Sens can inform his Swedish team they will only loan him if they are reimbursed for the bonus paid out, recouping the money.
WadeRedden
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He's a 7th round pick who has never played a game for the Sens. They talked about it quite a bit back in October and November when he was still suspended but as of right now there's not a lot to discuss.
Ah, so all is good then. That's fair.
Are people seriously upset about the 80k of someone else's money?
I'm upset we lost a decent looking prospect at a position where we really need help.
I'm upset we lost a decent looking prospect at a position where we really need help.
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Cat Herder
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He just signed a 4 year deal with Färjestad
The Sens have agreed to loan him for this season
edit: from this twitter feed https://twitter.com/Pammerhockey
The Sens have agreed to loan him for this season
edit: from this twitter feed https://twitter.com/Pammerhockey
Meanwhile, the guy who played 1178 games for us only has 3 pages worth of posts in his retirement thread.
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Here's the Swedish article confirming it.
Beware: bad google translation ahead:
Mikael Wikstrand:
- "I'm very happy in Karlstad and Färjestad BK with all that implies. The people here in the club from day one has taken good care of me so it feels just right. Now I know where I'll be a long time to come, which gives me a feeling of security. In a way it feels like you can pull on his shirt for the first time now that we seriously are involved from the beginning. It went well in the beginning of last season but it was the course ailment as time went on and never got clear whether he would be allowed to play or not. Now I know."
Beware: bad google translation ahead:
Mikael Wikstrand:
- "I'm very happy in Karlstad and Färjestad BK with all that implies. The people here in the club from day one has taken good care of me so it feels just right. Now I know where I'll be a long time to come, which gives me a feeling of security. In a way it feels like you can pull on his shirt for the first time now that we seriously are involved from the beginning. It went well in the beginning of last season but it was the course ailment as time went on and never got clear whether he would be allowed to play or not. Now I know."
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We only have ourselves to blame for this one.
He has received almost zero hype outside of the Ottawa city limits. 3/4 of other NHL fanbases have probably never even heard his name before. Even among more diehard fans, he's probably more known for being "that kid who went back to Sweden because his brother was sick" than he is known for his hockey skill.
Heck, even casual Sens fans barely know much about him. Go ask the guy in Accounts Receivable with the Sens bobblehead on his desk for a scouting report on Wikstrand. I'd give you even odds that he can't do it.
