Prospect Info: Mikael Granlund V

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TZM

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I don't think Coyle is dramatically faster than Koivu. I don't think he's got the hands of Koivu and to be seen about the hockey IQ but he's already got a better shot. He'd be very similar at the center position, which given what we've seen from Koivu, not sure is what we want.

Koivu ~ 15-20 goals 65-70 points
Coyle ~ 20-25 goals 55-60 points

Or at wing ~ 25-30 goals 50-55 points

I just think though Granlund and Coyle could be a real nice pairing out there.

Maybe something like:

Granlund - Koivu - Coyle
Parise - Cullen - Pominville

Would be superb. Or if GMCF could get Weiss or Filppula to put on the first line. That way you could roll 3 lines that bring scoring threat.

Weiss/Filppula/Granlund-Koivu-Coyle

Parise-Cullen-Pomiville

Zucker-Mitchell/Brodz(?)-Seto(?)

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FVM

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I just think though Granlund and Coyle could be a real nice pairing out there.

Maybe something like:

Granlund - Koivu - Coyle
Parise - Cullen - Pominville

This looks... brilliant, actually. Can we email Yeo? Granlund and Coyle have great chemistry, as do Granlund and Koivu. First line would have plenty of physical presence (Coyle & Koivu) along with creative, unpredictable offensive catalyst in Granlund. I really want to see this on the ice now.

edit: This could also leave a third line of Zucker-Mitchell-Setoguchi, which would be a real speed demon line. Put Brodziak on the 4th line and we could really roll four lines this year.
 

Gaps

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This looks... brilliant, actually. Can we email Yeo? Granlund and Coyle have great chemistry, as do Granlund and Koivu. First line would have plenty of physical presence (Coyle & Koivu) along with creative, unpredictable offensive catalyst in Granlund. I really want to see this on the ice now.

I wouldn't mind seeing that either. But I'm not holding my breath on that happening.
 

keppel146

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This looks... brilliant, actually. Can we email Yeo? Granlund and Coyle have great chemistry, as do Granlund and Koivu. First line would have plenty of physical presence (Coyle & Koivu) along with creative, unpredictable offensive catalyst in Granlund. I really want to see this on the ice now.

edit: This could also leave a third line of Zucker-Mitchell-Setoguchi, which would be a real speed demon line. Put Brodziak on the 4th line and we could really roll four lines this year.

agreed. someone find his email
 

OpRedDawn*

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On the lines of

Granlund - Koivu - Coyle
Parise - Cullen - Pominville

I don't mind the second, but that top line would never score. It doesn't have a shooter. If anything, I'd put Poms on that top line, put Seto back on Cullen's wing, and put Coyle on the third
 

FVM

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On the lines of

Granlund - Koivu - Coyle
Parise - Cullen - Pominville

I don't mind the second, but that top line would never score. It doesn't have a shooter. If anything, I'd put Poms on that top line, put Seto back on Cullen's wing, and put Coyle on the third

It doesn't have a pure shooter type, true, but both Granlund and Coyle can finish around the net. Low number of shots could become a problem, but I've found Granlund to be more aggressive and initiative on the wing so he could step up as a goal scorer too. He has done that before (20 goals in 45 games in his last SM-liiga season).
 

Scoutguy77

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In his last 9 AHL games, he had 1 goal and that was when the goalie was pulled and we had an extra attacker.
He played big minutes in those games and 1st power play.

Not sure why people STILL want to promote him as a 1st line player at the NHL level, next year.

He like other young players needs more seasoning, other young players are trending up as the year progressed, Granlund was trending downward.

He needs more seasoning at the minor pro level, pure and simple.

Dont blame Yeo, Fletcher or Torch--he simply has to get better. Its up to him, time to man-up.

I have confidence he will Q!
 

Grover

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I have a feeling Yeo will start the season with Brodziak on the first line cause they are such butt buddies.
 

Avder

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I don't think Coyle is dramatically faster than Koivu. I don't think he's got the hands of Koivu and to be seen about the hockey IQ but he's already got a better shot. He'd be very similar at the center position, which given what we've seen from Koivu, not sure is what we want.

Koivu ~ 15-20 goals 65-70 points
Coyle ~ 20-25 goals 55-60 points

Or at wing ~ 25-30 goals 50-55 points

I just think though Granlund and Coyle could be a real nice pairing out there.

Maybe something like:

Granlund - Koivu - Coyle
Parise - Cullen - Pominville

This is like one of those lightbulb moments you see in cartoons.
 

Puhis

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There another hidden plus (which someone else already mentioned):

Zucker - Mitchell - Seto

Not only the fact that everyone on that line is a god damn rocket, but Mitch and Seto are well known BFF, and both can play physical if required. Zucker will add even more speed and goal scoring on that line.
 

Haite

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Granlund will play his first game of '13 WHC against Latvia tonight at 8:15 PM EET (12:15 PM CST) if anyone is interested.
 

Lapa

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Granlund just scored with a nice wrister on the PP. He seemed surprised nobody came at him like in the NHL :laugh:

He seems stronger and faster than he did in Finland - you really see it when he's playing on the big ice. He's played well so far.
 

Lapa

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Honestly, as some posters have already said, I think Granlund is faster than people think. Thing is that he needs to keep moving his feet.
 

llamapalooza

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In his last 9 AHL games, he had 1 goal and that was when the goalie was pulled and we had an extra attacker.
He played big minutes in those games and 1st power play.

Not sure why people STILL want to promote him as a 1st line player at the NHL level, next year.

He like other young players needs more seasoning, other young players are trending up as the year progressed, Granlund was trending downward.

He needs more seasoning at the minor pro level, pure and simple.

Dont blame Yeo, Fletcher or Torch--he simply has to get better. Its up to him, time to man-up.

I have confidence he will Q!

I'm actually not convinced it's just a matter of more seasoning. He's got the talent, he's putting on size and speed, and he's already 21. In fact IIRC he looked like he was playing head-and-shoulders above the AHL level during the lockout, and his struggles really only showed up after his injury. I'd be more worried about rebuilding his confidence than seasoning, and I think some time at the NHL level––and none of this healthy scratch/fourth line garbage that Yeo threw at him––might be a better plan, particularly now that he can get a full NHL training camp in to really solidify those lines.
 

Gaps

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Granlund was chosen best player of the game for Finland.

Some more Granlund stats from the game:

TOI 16:46
4 SOG
62.5% FO (10W/6L)
Successful passes 20/26
 
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Puhis

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Granlund was also switched to the 2nd line during the game, didn't notice exactly when but at least he played in the 3rd between Korpikoski and Salminen.
 
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