Microsoft Xbox Discussion - It is my nature

[Puck]

Xbox Game Pass for PC is doubling its price next week

Even with the doubling in price for the PC GamePass, it's probably still decent value for many avid gamers. I subscribed to it in March maybe not long enough to get totally hooked, I cancelled my subscription this morning. I basically was just liking and using Forza once in awhile. Tried some others however the only thing that caught my eye lately was the Flight Simulator (but had not got into that yet).
There is enough other stuff around to keep me pre-occupied without needing a partly used subscription that is doubling in price.

I have not decided on which new console yet. I've only decided to push back the purchase until next year when things get clearer. I figure if I can cancel my XBox subscription without feeling the pain, I prolly have the patience to wait until next year for any new console purchase.

 

[aleshemsky83]

Digital Foundry made an interesting point. The Series X has significantly less VRAM than the One X, which could mean backwards compatibility is going to be the One S versions. I could see this being true for Red Dead Redemption, which is native 4k on the One X

Been confirmed true for all games.

 

[Jussi]

https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugyb9Rqvf3Ix4IXnViV4AaABCQ

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

Ok Battletoads is great. Short and fun, which I appreciate more as I get older. Also pretty funny.

 

[Kelly]

So are they actually expecting people to drop 1500+ on a 4k usb 2.1 compatible TV?

Kinda shitty, I mean I'm in need of an upgrade anyway... but f***, finding a moderately priced TV that has usb2.1 isn't very easy right now.

Any recommendations?

 

[Commander Clueless]

So are they actually expecting people to drop 1500+ on a 4k usb 2.1 compatible TV?

Kinda shitty, I mean I'm in need of an upgrade anyway... but f***, finding a moderately priced TV that has usb2.1 isn't very easy right now.

Any recommendations?

Probably not what you're looking for, but my recommendation would be to wait a year or two for 2.1 to become standard on budget 4K TVs

4K60 will be more than enough, I think. Hell, I'd be happy with 1080p60 consistently, but I'm still a little salty from last gen.

 

[Mikeaveli]

I don't think there will be very many games running at 4k120hz that aren't last gen ports or indie games.

 

[MAHJ71]

So are they actually expecting people to drop 1500+ on a 4k usb 2.1 compatible TV?

Kinda shitty, I mean I'm in need of an upgrade anyway... but f***, finding a moderately priced TV that has usb2.1 isn't very easy right now.

Any recommendations?

Probably not what you're looking for, but my recommendation would be to wait a year or two for 2.1 to become standard on budget 4K TVs

4K60 will be more than enough, I think. Hell, I'd be happy with 1080p60 consistently, but I'm still a little salty from last gen.

how can I tell if I have 2.1 or not? Lol

is the PS5 gonna be the same way?

 

[Mikeaveli]

how can I tell if I have 2.1 or not? Lol

is the PS5 gonna be the same way?

Should be easy enough to find out if you google the model of your TV. If it's 4k and has a refresh rate of 120Hz, you're good. Although I believe some TVs have a specific HDMI port you need to use to take advantage of HDMI 2.1.

PS5 will have some games that support it, like Rainbow Six Siege. But like I mentioned earlier I cant see a huge amount of new titles taking advantage of this.

 

[MAHJ71]

Should be easy enough to find out if you google the model of your TV. If it's 4k and has a refresh rate of 120Hz, you're good. Although I believe some TVs have a specific HDMI port you need to use to take advantage of HDMI 2.1.

PS5 will have some games that support it, like Rainbow Six Siege. But like I mentioned earlier I cant see a huge amount of new titles taking advantage of this.

So it’s not like a requirement per say

 

[Kelly]

So it’s not like a requirement per say

No from what I understand you'll need 2.1 to run only 4k 120hz, or 8k. 4k 60fps will work through the standard hdmi 2.0a/b.

When did you buy your TV? I don't think many TV's have them, especially if they are old. It's also a different cable then the standard HDMI2.0a/b.

Probably not what you're looking for, but my recommendation would be to wait a year or two for 2.1 to become standard on budget 4K TVs

4K60 will be more than enough, I think. Hell, I'd be happy with 1080p60 consistently, but I'm still a little salty from last gen.

Likely what I'll have to do. Just can't warrant dropping that much money on a TV and a new generation console right now lol. Honestly with the lack of launch games, and my TV only being good for 1080p, I'll likely just wait to buy the new xbox.

 

[MAHJ71]

No from what I understand you'll need 2.1 to run only 4k 120hz, or 8k. 4k 60fps will work through the standard hdmi 2.0a/b.

When did you buy your TV? I don't think many TV's have them, especially if they are old. It's also a different cable then the standard HDMI2.0a/b.


Likely what I'll have to do. Just can't warrant dropping that much money on a TV and a new generation console right now lol. Honestly with the lack of launch games, and my TV only being good for 1080p, I'll likely just wait to buy the new xbox.

Around a year ago .. Vizio 75 .. not sure which series

EDIT Vizio D Series 70 inch

 

[FLYERSFAN18]

So are they actually expecting people to drop 1500+ on a 4k usb 2.1 compatible TV?

Kinda shitty, I mean I'm in need of an upgrade anyway... but f***, finding a moderately priced TV that has usb2.1 isn't very easy right now.

Any recommendations?

What size TV are you looking for? The Sony X900H 55 inch is $1,000 U.S. It has 2 HDMI 2.1 ports that get 2.1 functions when they release the firmware update

 

[Kelly]

Around a year ago .. Vizio 75 .. not sure which series

EDIT Vizio D Series 70 inch

Vizio D Series 4k 2018 Review (D43-F1, D55-F2, D60-F3, D65-F1, D70-F3)

Don't think it does.

What size TV are you looking for? The Sony X900H 55 inch is $1,000 U.S. It has 2 HDMI 2.1 ports that get 2.1 functions when they release the firmware update

Around that size. Ty, ill check it out.

 

[FLYERSFAN18]

Vizio D Series 4k 2018 Review (D43-F1, D55-F2, D60-F3, D65-F1, D70-F3)

Don't think it does.

Around that size. Ty, ill check it out.

No problem. I am planning on getting the X900H once the updates for 2.1 compatibility are released

 

[Knave]

The financing deal is pretty attractive. Does anyone know how the GPU portion works for those of us who already have a couple years of subscription built up? If it just adds a month on to the end of my subscription expiry date each billing cycle I think I'll go with the financing deal and maybe pick up a playstation for the first time ever or upgrade to a bigger TV.

I tried some google searching and couldn't get a clear answer.

 

[Beau Knows]

You could argue that Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 is kind of the first next-gen game. It's supposedly coming to Xbox One, but I can't imagine how that would look/run. I want to see it on the Series X to see what that system is capable of.

 

[Jussi]

thats pretty ridiculous too

You're forgetting that the Series X SSD isn't normal speed either. It's bandwidth is 2400 MB/s. The external ones have to be the same speed.

 

[aleshemsky83]

You're forgetting that the Series X SSD isn't normal speed either. It's bandwidth is 2400 MB/s. The external ones have to be the same speed.

It's significantly slower than any PCIe gen 4 SSD, which are essentially the same price as Xbox sells their memory cards for.

Amazon.com : pcie 4 ssd

 

[Jussi]

It's significantly slower than any PCIe gen 4 SSD, which are essentially the same price as Xbox sells their memory cards for.

Amazon.com : pcie 4 ssd

You're comparing internal with externals. External SSDs that match the speed of Series X internal SSD, cost a lot over here. Like way more than the memory card.

 

[Jussi]

I have to say I'm liking the UI/Guide updates they've added for us Beta Insider folks.

 

[aleshemsky83]

You're comparing internal with externals. External SSDs that match the speed of Series X internal SSD, cost a lot over here. Like way more than the memory card.

True, but you're also comparing a proprietary slot not out yet with SSDs designed for a 30 year old USB interface. There's no reason they couldn't have made an easy to access m.2 slot behind a easy to remove cover.

 

[Jussi]

True, but you're also comparing a proprietary slot not out yet with SSDs designed for a 30 year old USB interface. There's no reason they couldn't have made an easy to access m.2 slot behind a easy to remove cover.

It wasn't designed in such a way.

 

[sa cyred]

Anyone try out xcloud? Curious how it works. I have never had any issues with Geforce Now so I was curious how it competed. I dont have andriod devices (well I have a nvidia shield but there's talk it doesnt work for it unless you sideload it).

 

[GreytWun]

It wasn't designed in such a way.

Agreed. M2 drives run hotter than 2.5 SSD drives. With the design they would have had to account for proper cooling for it. I am already curious the kind of temperature the Xbox Series X is going to run at already with it’s design.