$3.5 mill is currently around 4% of the salary cap. Aside from Toronto who had guys like Horton and clarkson who would go on ltir once the season began what teams spend more than a bit over the cap and just bury guys on 1 way deals in the A to save cap space? How many teams would have had $90 mill against the cap in the summer? Even burying guys in the A only saves $1 mill per player. Not going to send 7 guys on 1 way deals down.
Player Discussion Micheal Ferland
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There are 2 points where it could get critical. The first is the start of UFA, lets assume the team is close to the cap (84m or whatever it maybe) and wants to sign Taylor Hall. With a payroll of 83m (including Ferland) the max cap hit they could offer 9.4m and would have no room to sign anyone else. Those 9.4m obviously might not be enough so they would have to dump salary first before upping the offer and by that he may have signed somewhere else. Now without Ferland they would be able to over 12.9m which makes quite a difference.
The second crucial date would be October 1st, by that teams have to set a cap compliant roster and that would be with Ferland as an active player. Only after that he can be placed on LTIR. So to say his contract will just disappear on LTIR without any impact is not quite correct.
canuckking1
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Before the season was suspended
Really thought he’d shut it down. Keeps pushing it but luckily for him they probably won’t play games anymore this season,
Really thought he’d shut it down. Keeps pushing it but luckily for him they probably won’t play games anymore this season,
A big training camp for Ferland and the Canucks next September. Basically played only a handful of games this season, and will have missed six months by the time training camp opens.
I suppose the fact that he's already back on skates is a positive sign. I'm sure if his doctors had any concern they'd be keeping him in civvies. But when the contact begins in earnest in training camp, and if the symptoms return, it's hard not to see how he'll have any choice but to consider retirement.
I suppose the fact that he's already back on skates is a positive sign. I'm sure if his doctors had any concern they'd be keeping him in civvies. But when the contact begins in earnest in training camp, and if the symptoms return, it's hard not to see how he'll have any choice but to consider retirement.
Nucker101
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This dude needs to chill. I remember when Willie Mitchell has a severe concussion and he just stopped working out and actually got a bit fat, he looked rough lol. That’s probably what Ferland should do. Just completely chill with any intense physical activity for a couple of months and then ease back in with light skating/jogging/lifting and slowly ramp it up to full workouts around training camp next year.
I don't think Mitchell should be the model here. He's more of the old breed who snuck out at night to grab drinks when his boss wanted him to wear a watch that monitors his sleep. Crosby on the other hand might be a good model to follow.
You would hope Ferland knows his body. If skating causes symptoms then he should get off the ice. If working out causes symptoms then he should dial it back. If both those activities are fine then there's no reason for him not to keep doing it. He just needs to play it safe and not do any battle drills.
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Dreger says more concussion-related symptoms, gone back home to Manitoba.
Didn't last four periods in his first comeback this season, didn't last one period in the second comeback (in Utica), didn't last seven periods in the third comeback (and the fight probably didn't help). This has to be the end, doesn't it? LTIR and good luck with the rest of his life.
Didn't last four periods in his first comeback this season, didn't last one period in the second comeback (in Utica), didn't last seven periods in the third comeback (and the fight probably didn't help). This has to be the end, doesn't it? LTIR and good luck with the rest of his life.
VanillaCoke
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He's probably done for atleast a year, I wouldn't be surprised If he tries again after even more time off.
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There’s no way he can try another comeback. How many times has he tried, only to be sidelined again mere periods into the next comeback? This has to be it for him, his brain can’t take anymore.
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mossey3535
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Look, on paper I understand why we signed Ferland. But also on paper, his salary was a liability regarding EP/QH. He was a throw-in 9 days after free agency started, a time at which a lot of big-name guys who didn't go in the first couple days were getting squeezed. So even if he was healthy now, we didn't get market value for him.
The other issue is that this isn't the first time we've signed a player and been seemingly ignorant of their recent injury history.
I hope that Ferland is ok but his signing was a complete disaster even before he stepped on the ice.
The other issue is that this isn't the first time we've signed a player and been seemingly ignorant of their recent injury history.
I hope that Ferland is ok but his signing was a complete disaster even before he stepped on the ice.
mossey3535
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Unfortunately, it's so unpredictable. Maybe that will work for him. Maybe it won't. I just hope either way he gets to live a normal quality of life, whether or not he comes back to the league.
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I'm all about players getting paid but the team should recoup after that nonsense. This is easily Benning's worst signing.
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I don't even think Foligno landed a punch in that fight, so I doubt that was the issue. Ferland also finished that game, as well.
But, regardless of what caused it, the guy is done. He's not going to pull a Crosby and take a year off, only to come back and dominate. Sid is one of the five best players of all time, while Ferland is just a journeyman 2nd/3rd line tweener. I think this is the end of the line and, for the sake of his health, it should be.
Bubbles
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The original Micheal Ferland thread is gold. GOLD, JERRY, GOLD! 
Confirmed with Link: - Canucks sign F Micheal Ferland to a 4-year, $3.5M AAV Deal
Also, 62% of voters thought it was a good deal, wtf?
Benning signs a guy with previous concussion issues, all the other teams stay the hell away for days after free agency, and Benning gives him a blank cheque with term. At least we can stick him on LTIR for the rest of his contract.
Confirmed with Link: - Canucks sign F Micheal Ferland to a 4-year, $3.5M AAV Deal
Also, 62% of voters thought it was a good deal, wtf?
Benning signs a guy with previous concussion issues, all the other teams stay the hell away for days after free agency, and Benning gives him a blank cheque with term. At least we can stick him on LTIR for the rest of his contract.
The original Micheal Ferland thread is gold. GOLD, JERRY, GOLD!
Confirmed with Link: - Canucks sign F Micheal Ferland to a 4-year, $3.5M AAV Deal
Also, 62% of voters thought it was a good deal, wtf?
Benning signs a guy with previous concussion issues, all the other teams stay the hell away for days after free agency, and Benning gives him a blank cheque with term. At least we can stick him on LTIR for the rest of his contract.
Hearing a rumour that Ferland's deal has insurance issues, so Canucks are on the hook to pay some amount of his contract if he goes on LTIR.....hoping this is true. Maybe another nail in Jimbo's coffin? Aqualini can't like paying this guy to not play.....just like big Sven?
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Ferland had a physical and was cleared to play after the trade was made..He specifically wanted to play in Western Canada, so the 'nobody would touch him' narrative is entertaining...Lots of players come back from concussion issues, this one just had a unfortunate ending.The original Micheal Ferland thread is gold. GOLD, JERRY, GOLD!
Confirmed with Link: - Canucks sign F Micheal Ferland to a 4-year, $3.5M AAV Deal
Also, 62% of voters thought it was a good deal, wtf?
Benning signs a guy with previous concussion issues, all the other teams stay the hell away for days after free agency, and Benning gives him a blank cheque with term. At least we can stick him on LTIR for the rest of his contract.
Bubbles
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Not like he was being actively pursued by NHL teams. If he was, he would have been signed earlier than that. Benning also tipped his hand way earlier and really wanted him.
You wonder how on earth he was allowed to play and not rested for next season. Literally everyone saw this coming.
You would almost wonder if they put him out there intentionally to hurt himself for the LTIR relief but I don’t think Jimbo is that smart. Or ruthless.
You would almost wonder if they put him out there intentionally to hurt himself for the LTIR relief but I don’t think Jimbo is that smart. Or ruthless.
It’s good ol’ boys tryin’ to do right for another good ol’ boy and since the league is run by other good ol’ boys everyone is super supportive and not being an actual adult and realizing they are killing him.
The NHL is absolutely dead-set at never changing anything until they 100% have to. Even then it’s usually at the bare minimum. Their very poor attempts at making hockey inclusive this weekend is a great example. The years of abuse players face in juniors is another. Concussions have been around forever but it didn’t change from “getting his bell rung” until 15 years ago. That’s just the lowest perception. Guarantee most of the older management still don’t understand what the fuss is about. Younger guys probably only care because they don’t want to damage the long term viability of their asset. It’s a trash league run by trash people who have no vision of how to actually grow and improve the game.
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Johnny Canucker
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Have you actually seen what the testing is for physical when it comes to baseline testing and concussions a physical for sports players measures review to max measures there dexterity ability to function cognitive things but it has almost nothing to do with Head trauma. physical is so far behind when it comes to concussions that they would’ve caught anything they do bloodwork stuff like that you can’t just rely on a physical GMJB should have known better
Ferland has passed every test along the way. But this was his third attempt this season returning from concussion related symptoms since the fight in October. Didn’t last past game 2 in December. Nor the first period in Feb. now not past game 2 in August.
seems like he can get to the point of practicing and scrimmaging. But even without 17k screaming fans, super brights lights, music, etc. he isn’t lasting a real game.
seems like he can get to the point of practicing and scrimmaging. But even without 17k screaming fans, super brights lights, music, etc. he isn’t lasting a real game.
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Now will all the obv posters who were hilariously and predictably wrong own up to it, or have to get exposed?
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