Player Discussion Micheal Ferland

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    Previous Thread: Confirmed with Link: - Canucks sign F Micheal Ferland to a 4-year, $3.5M AAV Deal


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    Not a player that excited me about acquiring... but one that feels better when you hear about how his teammates and fans felt about him.

    Liked the idea of Johansson's skill and production better and Dzingel's speed.

    I'm looking very forward to seeing how Ferland's skillset fits into the lineup and how it manifests itself toward his line's production and effectiveness.

    Can't wait actually!
     
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    I don't think Ferland is comparable to Roussel. I actually think Leivo is a better comparison with Ferland in terms of their offensive game with Ferland having a much greater track record of success with skilled players. Ferland at his best (i.e. first half) is a very effective complementary player to the stars.
     
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    it'd be nice to see this team throw the body more consistently. might pump some others up to do the same. always annoys me how this team comes out ball busters the first week and then quickly become a bunch of non event players.
     
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    Where can one hear about how his teammates felt about him. Really curious to hear what they have to say!
     
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    We actually have a decent amount of physicality at forward now.
    Ferland, Roussel, Virtanen, Horvat, Miller, Leivo, Beagle.

    Am i missing anyone?
     
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    Sutter. He's got huge balls.
     
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    When Jim is talking about Ferland it kind of reminds me of Homer talking about a donut.
     
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    Guys like Leivo and Beagle (and even Horvat) might have some size to work along the walls but aren't physical at all in the traditional sense. Leivo might throw the fewest hits in the NHL for a player his size.
     
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    "Well, Scott Wheeler of the Athletic, what do you think of the acquisition of Ferland?"

    "I really like him, I think it will be a good acquisition if he remains consistent."

    "Well, Scott, the last couple seasons his scoring has really dropped off in the second half of the season. Thoughts?"

    "Yeah, he has been inconsistent the last two seasons."
     
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    Leivo does not throw hits per se..but to my eye, usually wins board battles.
     
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    Which I noted in my post. Leivo is a weird one in that he seems good along the boards but at the same time seems allergic to the dirty areas in front of the net.
     
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    Leivo just isn't a very good player. He's a borderline NHL player that received way more minutes than he deserved because the Canucks had barely any talent upfront. Even if is he was physical, which he isn't really, it wouldn't make a huge difference because he isn't a very good player.
     
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    Leivo has a decent wrist shot and he seems to do a pretty good job of sneaking behind the coverage. He also has good enough hands to consistently direct (weak) shots on net that has managed to go in for him.
     
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    He's quite literally the best possession player on the team. And as a result, his defensive impacts are sterling. He's invaluable to a team like ours at his price point.

    He doesn't have the speed, skill, or IQ to be a real offensive force. But his possession game is built for a low-event 3rd line. Or as 3rd wheel to more skilled players.
     
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    Yeah, I don't agree that he's a poor player. He's fundamentally strong defensively, wins a ton of puck battles, strong along the walls and doesn't turn the puck over a lot. Offensively, his strength is the big shot.

    It's also easy to forget how poorly he was developed in Toronto, where he sat in the press box for the better part of 2 full years without getting to even play 20 games in either season, AHL and NHL combined. We still don't know if Leivo has shown his best hockey yet, as he only has 133 games under his belt.

    I like the idea of slotting him next to Beagle in a checking role. He has the defensive ability to handle that assignment and doesn't need a playmaker to create offense. Could be a valuable piece there, even if he's only playing 12 minutes a night and giving you 10-12 even strength goals.
     
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    Anyone think he can provide protective services for boeser pettersson Hughes etc ? We need some of that. Don’t want our boys to get bullied.
     
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    I 'm sure he'll provide every bit as much protection to the skill guys as Gudbranson did.
     
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    He had better, it's the #1 reason as to why he was signed. Jimbo's acquisitions all seem to disappoint though, so I'm not getting my hopes up. I doubt DimJim even discussed it with Ferland, to be honest.
     
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    You're missing our most active hitter from last season, Tyler Motte. He averaged close to 3 hits/game.

    Tanner Pearson as well was 4th amongst our forwards with 1.5 hits/game.

    The upgrade at forward over the last year in terms of size and physicality is actually quite staggering. Fans that like that side of the game have waited a very long time to see that element in Vancouver. Looks like a solid mix of high end skill and size. The prospect of Podkolzin joining the ranks in the near future could be the most exciting of all. He would really round out that forward corps if he can translate his game.
     
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    They bring different kinds of physicality.

    Virtanen is the opposite, he throws open ice hits but doesn’t engage much in the corners or in front of the net.
     
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    You may be exaggerating a bit but I agree that we have become more physical and that might be a good thing

    Now if only we had more skilled forwards and the defense wasn’t complete shit.
     
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    I think he will but I hope he doesn't drop his gloves all that much. He has concussion issues and has injured himself in fights in the past.

    I don't think that's the #1 reason he was signed.
     
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    It better not be. Signing anyone for the "protection factor" is beyond foolish.

    Deterrence doesn't exist. Lucic didn't stop Savard's career from being ended. Gudbranson on the ice didn't stop anyone roughing up Petey. Lucic still doesn't save McDavid any hassle.

    Ferland is a fine enough player and has some skills that'll suit our team. The price point is reasonable (though because of Benning's far more egregious moves, our overall cap situation is quite bad). Those are the reasons you sign him. Not because of some myth that he'll stop other teams from taking runs at Petey.
     
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    Well why target him over more skilled wingers available then?

    Winning usually helps.
     
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