Celebrity Death: Michael Mantenuto (actor, Miracle) suicide

Cherpak

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The war on terror claims yet another victim it would seem. He left acting to serve in the Army and particularly Special Forces. PTSD claims 22 vets a day in this country and no one gives a damn.

RIP soldier. Your watch is over.
 

Asher

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The war on terror claims yet another victim it would seem. He left acting to serve in the Army and particularly Special Forces. PTSD claims 22 vets a day in this country and no one gives a damn.

RIP soldier. Your watch is over.

I don't know anything about this young man but I do know something about PTSD and completely agree that it's a problem that isn't being properly dealt with.
 

Bileur

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The war on terror claims yet another victim it would seem. He left acting to serve in the Army and particularly Special Forces. PTSD claims 22 vets a day in this country and no one gives a damn.

RIP soldier. Your watch is over.

I fully agree PTSD is horrific but I think saying "the war on terror claims yet another victim" is pointing blame in the wrong direction.

I think it's more fair to say that the shameful insufficiency of medical and psychological support for armed forces members (and all first responders for that matter) has claimed another victim.
 

Saved

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By the way, can a mod edit the post to reflect appropriate language "committing" suicide. It is an inappropriate term that people continue to use even though it is outdated. Proper terminology such as completed is considered a more appropriate term.
 

tarheelhockey

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This is the second untimely death of a "Miracle" cast member this week. Sasha Lakovic, the former NHL'er who portrayed Boris Mikhailov (the faceoff stare-down scene) passed away of brain cancer at age 45 a couple of days ago.
 

Acadmus

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By the way, can a mod edit the post to reflect appropriate language "committing" suicide. It is an inappropriate term that people continue to use even though it is outdated. Proper terminology such as completed is considered a more appropriate term.

I don't know that enforcing a PC code on posts is appropriate use of mod power.
 

Cherpak

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I fully agree PTSD is horrific but I think saying "the war on terror claims yet another victim" is pointing blame in the wrong direction.

I think it's more fair to say that the shameful insufficiency of medical and psychological support for armed forces members (and all first responders for that matter) has claimed another victim.

While I don't disagree with your assessment, before you can have a need for that support there has to be a reason for it in the first place.

Being in the military takes a certain mindset. Strong,tough, able to deal with what most can't. It's very hard for one to accept they can't deal with something and so they remain silent. They don't seek the help needed as it might show weakness. Its hard to explain but in that world you NEVER show weakness. It's just not acceptable. Sounds strange I know, but that's just how it is. Put someone in SPECOPS and that increases ten fold.

Point being, for the medical/psychological help to work you have to first admit you need it. Biggest hurdle to overcome.

Living with PTSD is a *****. Everyday is a struggle but you get up and find a reason. Its when you no longer can that you have such tragic outcomes.

I also agree its not just the military though. I am a 1st responder now as well and I see a lot of the same attitudes towards help.

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Cherpak

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Armed Forces are investigating as he did reportedly see active duty

That's SOP.

CID (Criminal Investigation Division) treat any non combat related death as a homicide until proven otherwise.

Just the Army covering all the bases.
 

StrangeVision

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By the way, can a mod edit the post to reflect appropriate language "committing" suicide. It is an inappropriate term that people continue to use even though it is outdated. Proper terminology such as completed is considered a more appropriate term.

Is this actually a thing?
 

Jumptheshark

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That's SOP.

CID (Criminal Investigation Division) treat any non combat related death as a homicide until proven otherwise.

Just the Army covering all the bases.

now a days it also is done to see if the vet was suffering PTSD

I have relatives in the armed forces in both USA and here in the UK. About a year ago one of their colleagues died in a car crash--it was investigated to see if he drove the car off the edge or just lost control. Turned out there was a malfunction with the car breaks that lead to the crash.

PTSD is something they do not talk about but do investigate
 

Cherpak

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now a days it also is done to see if the vet was suffering PTSD

I have relatives in the armed forces in both USA and here in the UK. About a year ago one of their colleagues died in a car crash--it was investigated to see if he drove the car off the edge or just lost control. Turned out there was a malfunction with the car breaks that lead to the crash.

PTSD is something they do not talk about but do investigate

My unit had one of our helicopters crash during a range training exercise one day. None of the crew were injured but a D boy fast roping was killed.

We had to secure the sight and cordon it off until CID could investigate. When we asked why? They let us know they treat all NCR deaths as a homicide until proven otherwise. I thought it was strange for a helicopter crash but its SOP.

This was out in the middle of nowhere so access didn't come easily. They didn't get there until the next morning. Guess who was on that security detail? :sarcasm:

Yes they have to investigate PTSD nowadays since suicide is technically cause for losing your SGLI (Life insurance) and benefits for your NOK.
 

Terry Yake

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This is the second untimely death of a "Miracle" cast member this week. Sasha Lakovic, the former NHL'er who portrayed Boris Mikhailov (the faceoff stare-down scene) passed away of brain cancer at age 45 a couple of days ago.

did not know that

RIP both of them
 

LaxSabre

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This is the second untimely death of a "Miracle" cast member this week. Sasha Lakovic, the former NHL'er who portrayed Boris Mikhailov (the faceoff stare-down scene) passed away of brain cancer at age 45 a couple of days ago.


The Rochester Americans are deeply saddened to learn of the passing of former Amerks forward Sasha Lakovic. The East Vancouver, British Columbia, native passed away Tuesday at the age of 45 following a seventh-month battle with brain cancer.

Lakovic played his final season in the American Hockey League and his only year in Rochester during the 2000-2001 campaign, compiling 12 points (3+9) and a team-high 161 penalty minutes in 51 games with the Amerks. He also added two points (1+1) and 32 penalty minutes in four playoff appearances.

“Sasha was a great teammate who would stick up for his own players, but he was an even better person and loved his little daughter,†said former teammate Francois Methot, who led the Amerks in scoring that year with 55 points. “After years of not seeing him, we ended up running into each other at a hockey tournament in Amsterdam and he gave me a big bear hug and was so proud to tell me that he had a picture up in his house of an overtime goal he scored with the Amerks when we were linemates. He went on to brag about being a new father and he looked so happy. I am shocked and sad for his family and loved ones.â€

Lakovic went on to appear in 37 NHL games with the Calgary Flames and New Jersey Devils during his 12-year pro career before retiring after the 2004-2005 season.

He is also widely known for his portrayal of Boris Mikhailov, captain of the 1980 Soviet Hockey Team, in the movie Miracle.
 

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