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Why not sign Leighton or Kulbakov though? Surely an NHL team could see that you need more than 3 pro goalies under contract?No one could have seen this coming.
Why not sign Leighton or Kulbakov though? Surely an NHL team could see that you need more than 3 pro goalies under contract?No one could have seen this coming.
Why not sign Leighton or Kulbakov though? Surely an NHL team could see that you need more than 3 pro goalies under contract?
The 2nd goal was crazy. Ben Hutton is a moron.
1) no, rick is his uncle1) Is he his dad?
2) Is he dead?
Was this game played with in China?
It happens. Goalies generally have stronger psyches than other players, this won't affect him in the long run.
No one could have seen this coming.
I don't think you've been reading the Canucks' portion of hfb. Vancouver and Utica fans have been screaming for weeks.
First they decide to move their NHL backup so as to promote their prospect in the AHL. Nobody is complaining about them wanting to promote Demko from the AHL, but they had to do it without killing their depth. At that stage they had:
Markstrom-NHL contract, with the Canucks
Nilsson-NHL contract, with the Canucks
Demko-NHL, AHL starter
Bachman-NHL contract, already out for the season with injury
Kulbakov-AHL contract, was in ECHL but brought up as AHL backup to Demko
They were already thin at depth for goaltender. If they wanted to move Nilsson to promote Demko, they had to get a guy back to play in the AHL that could get called up to the NHL in case of injury.
They failed to do that. They took McKenna, who was in the NHL and had to pass waivers to get to the AHL. Some of us predicted McKenna would be claimed. It wasn't a suprise. So the Canucks, already thin on goalie depth, gave away their NHL backup without getting a goaltender back.
That's where it all started. Then after a couple of weeks the organization dealt with the problem by giving an American Hockey League professional tryout contract to a a 37 year old out of work goalie whose work this season had been 3 ECHL games with a 4.46 goals against average. They did nothing about the NHL.
They followed that by playing Markstrom, who had played four of the last five games before Nilsson was traded away, in 12 of the next 13 games including a back to back, largely with the team bleeding scoring chances night after night, still without signing anyone to use as NHL backup in case of injury. When Markstrom stopped 44 of 47 in 65 minutes of play, then 3 of 3 in the shootout a few nights after playing both games of a back to back, can anyone really be surprised that Markstrom came up hurt?
Overplay a goalie, the chances are fairly high that eventually he'll come up with at least a minor injury. That he did so is no surprise.
In the meantime the only other healthy goalie in the system with an NHL contract (or deserving of one) whose promotion was the reason for all this came down with an injury warming up for a game in which he was scheduled to once again back up Markstrom. They promoted Demko, trading away their NHL backup and killing their already thin system depth, so that Demko could play one game in the next five weeks.
None of what happened to the Canucks resulting in DiPietro getting thrown in against the Sharks was difficult to foresee. It didn't have to happen in the first place, if the Canucks really had to move Demko up they should have gotten the right return (not someone they should have anticipated would be lost on waivers) and once they were in the position they were in, they had weeks to deal with it so that there was NHL depth.
And even when they called up DiPietro to back up Markstrom, they didn't do anything about it. DiPietro was called up on emergency loan on February 5. He backed up Markstrom February 5, February 7 and February 9. The Canucks were satisfied to keep him as the backup and didn't make a move to actually sign an NHL backup.
Since the Canucks lost McKenna on waivers the Leafs traded a 5th rounder for Michael Hutchinson. Perhaps Lehtonen, Mason, Lack, Pavelec or someone else might have been enticed to sign a short-term deal to get the Canucks a warm body with NHL experience. Instead, they CHOSE to go with DiPietro as the backup.
They didn't. The Canucks' management team got exactly what it deserved last night. Unfortunately, DiPietro didn't deserve to be put in that position.
I don't think you've been reading the Canucks' portion of hfb. Vancouver and Utica fans have been screaming for weeks.
First they decide to move their NHL backup so as to promote their prospect in the AHL. Nobody is complaining about them wanting to promote Demko from the AHL, but they had to do it without killing their depth. At that stage they had:
Markstrom-NHL contract, with the Canucks
Nilsson-NHL contract, with the Canucks
Demko-NHL, AHL starter
Bachman-NHL contract, already out for the season with injury
Kulbakov-AHL contract, was in ECHL but brought up as AHL backup to Demko
They were already thin at depth for goaltender. If they wanted to move Nilsson to promote Demko, they had to get a guy back to play in the AHL that could get called up to the NHL in case of injury.
They failed to do that. They took McKenna, who was in the NHL and had to pass waivers to get to the AHL. Some of us predicted McKenna would be claimed. It wasn't a suprise. So the Canucks, already thin on goalie depth, gave away their NHL backup without getting a goaltender back.
That's where it all started. Then after a couple of weeks the organization dealt with the problem by giving an American Hockey League professional tryout contract to a a 37 year old out of work goalie whose work this season had been 3 ECHL games with a 4.46 goals against average. They did nothing about the NHL.
They followed that by playing Markstrom, who had played four of the last five games before Nilsson was traded away, in 12 of the next 13 games including a back to back, largely with the team bleeding scoring chances night after night, still without signing anyone to use as NHL backup in case of injury. When Markstrom stopped 44 of 47 in 65 minutes of play, then 3 of 3 in the shootout a few nights after playing both games of a back to back, can anyone really be surprised that Markstrom came up hurt?
Overplay a goalie, the chances are fairly high that eventually he'll come up with at least a minor injury. That he did so is no surprise.
In the meantime the only other healthy goalie in the system with an NHL contract (or deserving of one) whose promotion was the reason for all this came down with an injury warming up for a game in which he was scheduled to once again back up Markstrom. They promoted Demko, trading away their NHL backup and killing their already thin system depth, so that Demko could play one game in the next five weeks.
None of what happened to the Canucks resulting in DiPietro getting thrown in against the Sharks was difficult to foresee. It didn't have to happen in the first place, if the Canucks really had to move Demko up they should have gotten the right return (not someone they should have anticipated would be lost on waivers) and once they were in the position they were in, they had weeks to deal with it so that there was NHL depth.
And even when they called up DiPietro to back up Markstrom, they didn't do anything about it. DiPietro was called up on emergency loan on February 5. He backed up Markstrom February 5, February 7 and February 9. The Canucks were satisfied to keep him as the backup and didn't make a move to actually sign an NHL backup.
Since the Canucks lost McKenna on waivers the Leafs traded a 5th rounder for Michael Hutchinson. Perhaps Lehtonen, Mason, Lack, Pavelec or someone else might have been enticed to sign a short-term deal to get the Canucks a warm body with NHL experience. Instead, they CHOSE to go with DiPietro as the backup.
They didn't. The Canucks' management team got exactly what it deserved last night. Unfortunately, DiPietro didn't deserve to be put in that position.
I know this is several pages old and it's probably been done already, but Luongo is long gone by now, but late to be lamenting that tradeYou know Canucks, it may have made sense to keep a back up instead of trading him away.
Yeah Playing in the NHL as a 19 yr old.. poor kid. If this damages he wasn’t going to be much anywaysPoor kid
Maybe do some research on the teams current injuries then post garbage?Pretty dumb for the Canucks to play him. 19 years old against the #2 team in the league. Let him develop in Ottawa for the 67s and take a run at the Memorial Cup.
I know. I have been following. When I say no one could have seen this coming, I mean no could have not seen this coming. I thought it was too obvious to add the emoticon.
And thank you for the write-up, I can not put into writing what I think of Canucks management right now. I was so upset last night that I almost texted Alex to tell him to get his pads on, I was so disgusted. Calmer now.
Looks like after yesterday the Canucks management finally did something.
Best case scenario would be a Nate Thompson type deal where they move down a round in the draft. Montreal got Thompson and a 5th for a 4th for example.Did they trade a 6th round pick? We picked up an extra one about a month ago . . .
Its not just goalies tho pal cmon get with itCanucks are complete idiots for throwing this kid to the wolves.
I guess the trend of them not knowing how to properly manage goalies continues.