Value of: Michael Dal Colle

Martin Skoula

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Nobody wants to hear this , but maybe he just needs to play with some skilled guys to get the best out of him because he's sure as hell not going to drive the play on his own .

Yeah but you could say that about any of the UFA leftovers that are barely going to get PTOs. MDC isn't a guy worth designing a line around to help him produce as the priority over being an effective NHL unit, who cares if you can squeeze 30 points out of him in the perfect situation?

Yeah I don't get the impression that Islanders fans have much hope for him at this point. The kind of prospect that just doesn't have the skills or talent to be a "he just needs to put it all together" type of guy that you hold out for.

I remember a couple years into Luke Schenn's illustrious career thinking "how the hell did anyone think this guy had the skills to be a top-5 pick?". But just like Dal Colle, that's where he was ranked. Sometimes you just get a dud.

Schenn still played 700+ games somehow (albeit as a negative CF Rel player in all but 2 seasons), at least he's going to get an NHL pension.
 

blinkman360

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It would probably be disappointment for disappointment. No one will trade us a decent pick for him, and there is no reason for us to trade him for a late pick and risk seeing him salvage his career somewhere else for essentially nothing. It would have to be another "change of scenery" type prospect.

Otherwise he sinks or swims with the Isles. Most likely sinks though.
 

Chardo

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He's one of those guys that will probably be kept, because he still has more upside than the low draft pick he might get in a trade. If professional coaching doesn't spark improvement, they let him walk. Missing out on the low draft pick they might have gotten doesn't matter.
 

12Dog

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Dont see him as a top 6 in the nhl but if he somehow could become a pest/pk specialist then maybe for the bottom 6. Wouldn't bet on it however IMO.

I wouldn't see a negative for a rebuilding team to acquire him for a late pick and give him some more ice time ...ottawa looking at you.


Doesn’t skate well enough to pk. Skating is really bad
 

bukwas

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Nobody wants to hear this , but maybe he just needs to play with some skilled guys to get the best out of him because he's sure as hell not going to drive the play on his own .
They may as well give that a shot. Not much to lose at this point.
 

Magic Mittens

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It would probably be disappointment for disappointment. No one will trade us a decent pick for him, and there is no reason for us to trade him for a late pick and risk seeing him salvage his career somewhere else for essentially nothing. It would have to be another "change of scenery" type prospect.

Otherwise he sinks or swims with the Isles. Most likely sinks though.

NYI and Dallas should swap MDC for
Gurianov

Both could benefit from a change of scenery. Gurianov has talent just lacks consistency
 
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CREW99AW

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Just curious, is he one of those players that is worth more to the current organization than he is on the market (based off draft position) or would Islanders fans be open to moving him for a player of equal to slightly higher value?

As you point out ,he is worth more to the isles then any other team.
This is the final year of his ELC. Gonna be interesting to see if Trotz can get something out of him.
 

xNogaitx

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How about a reclamation project for another one?

Isles:
McCarron, Michael
2019 Habs 6th rd pick
2020 Winnipeg 4th rd pick

Mtl:
Dal Colle, Michael
2019 Isles 7th rd pick

McCarron has at least shown he's capable of a 4th liner/13th forward type of role and has bigger size. But obviously the upside is with Dal Colle if he ever puts it together.

Or maybe drop the 6th and replace McCarron with Rychel, Kerby ?
 

7even

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Yeah I don't get the impression that Islanders fans have much hope for him at this point. The kind of prospect that just doesn't have the skills or talent to be a "he just needs to put it all together" type of guy that you hold out for.

I remember a couple years into Luke Schenn's illustrious career thinking "how the hell did anyone think this guy had the skills to be a top-5 pick?". But just like Dal Colle, that's where he was ranked. Sometimes you just get a dud.

Luke Schenn was actually pretty good for an 18 year old defenseman. He just literally never got any better. At all.
 

780il

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He was drafted #5. 4 years later his value is a 5th lol.

I'll do you a favour and offer a 4th, maybe he can salvage a decent career playing with the best player in the world.
 

LordNeverLose

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How about a reclamation project for another one?

Isles:
McCarron, Michael
2019 Habs 6th rd pick
2020 Winnipeg 4th rd pick

Mtl:
Dal Colle, Michael
2019 Isles 7th rd pick

McCarron has at least shown he's capable of a 4th liner/13th forward type of role and has bigger size. But obviously the upside is with Dal Colle if he ever puts it together.

Or maybe drop the 6th and replace McCarron with Rychel, Kerby ?
Take out McCarron/Rychel and replace them with a late pick and I'd be happy with this. Would even do it with them in it tbh.
 

BruinsBtn

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He's waiver eligible this year, right? Buffalo, Ottawa, Arizona or Montreal are at the top of the waiver list so maybe one of them takes a look at the end of training camp. I can't see anyone giving anything up for him.
 

IslesNorway

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He's waiver eligible this year, right? Buffalo, Ottawa, Arizona or Montreal are at the top of the waiver list so maybe one of them takes a look at the end of training camp. I can't see anyone giving anything up for him.

No, this is the last year of his ELC. I guess the upcoming season is a kind of make or break season for him. He needs to start putting up points in the AHL to have any chance of ever making it. The top 6 ship has probably sailed but maybe he can turn himself into a decent bottom six forward with some proper coaching.

As for trade value, there is none
 

xECK29x

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The years he has played on Bridgeport that team has been total dogshit, basically a 31st ECHL team. Will be interested to see how he does this year, they really improved Bridgeport talent wise this off-season.
 

Hostile Offer

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How about a reclamation project for another one?

Isles:
McCarron, Michael
2019 Habs 6th rd pick
2020 Winnipeg 4th rd pick

Mtl:
Dal Colle, Michael
2019 Isles 7th rd pick

McCarron has at least shown he's capable of a 4th liner/13th forward type of role and has bigger size. But obviously the upside is with Dal Colle if he ever puts it together.

Or maybe drop the 6th and replace McCarron with Rychel, Kerby ?

Meh, McCarron is not any better than MDC but I'd rather keep the 4th round pick.
 

Brock Radunske

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This kid broke my heart. I wanted him so bad on draft day. More than Bennett Nylander and Ehlers.
Yep.
When he was drafted, I thought he was a perfect fit and exactly what the Islanders needed. I had him pegged as a #1W 40g guy.
Such a softy, though.
 

Brock Radunske

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I'd normally take a flyer on a guy like this for the Leafs, but he's too soft to be as slow as he his. I highly doubt he'll ever stick in the league.
 

Brock Radunske

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I'd still take a shot at him depending on the price, very JVR-esque in his skillset and we made that work pretty well
Maybe, except JVR used to be fast when he was young and MDC has been flat-footed since day 1. Not to mention he won't go into the tough spots.
But true. If he is cheap, why not?
 

Randy Randerson

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Maybe, except JVR used to be fast when he was young and MDC has been flat-footed since day 1. Not to mention he won't go into the tough spots.
But true. If he is cheap, why not?
ya the price has to be right for sure. IIRC JVR's acceleration was always mediocre but he was fast when he got to speed, but I think the post-broken foot JVR is a better comp and he was still good for the Leafs.

Maybe NYI would give him up for a low ceiling/high floor type at some point this year, see if a Brooks/Timashov/Trevor Moore/Engvall type starts looking like a good bet to be an NHL'er and take a flyer on it
 

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