NHLFanSince2020
What'd He Say?
Non-apology not accepted, finger pointing m'er f'er.
Non-apology not accepted, finger pointing m'er f'er.
gscarpenter2002 said:Extorted, you mean, from the paying public who pays the salaries through rapidly escalating tickets, and the owners who put up the money.
Oh, and before you fire up the old "Who would not accept the salaries" blah blah, I can tell you that when I am negotiating deals I often take less than I could, in order to accomplish certain other matters. Any halfway experienced dealmaker will do so.
Crazy_Ike said:I don't blame the players for the financial state of the league. However I do blame them for the lockout which was about addressing that state. It took them a year to finally accept a solution that would work, most of which time they spent obstinately shouting solidarity from the rooftops and holding onto meaningless anachronistic ideals instead of working with what was the obvious solution.
NJD Jester said:That's if you think the cap is an obvious solution, which the PA did not.
Do you really believe any of what you just said? You weren't paying very close attention to the whole lockout situation then.OTTSENS said:You want to talk about the lockout let's talk about the lockout. The owners are the only one responsible. Not the players. If the owners are to stupid the managed their team and make money without a cap how is that the players fault? Brian Burke said it the best when he said I had a cap fot the last five years in Vancouver is called a budget.
And that's last time I am talking lockout. I've been talking lockout for the last 10 months and I am sick of it.
Renholder said:Give the guy a break. The lockout is over, it's senseless to put blame as both sides were equally responsible for the lockout . You know what? It's over now, let's all move on.
Huh? Sure they did. The bottom line is none of the major, or minor, sports are like the NHL is. The other sports all have different kinds of owners, players, fans and in soccer's case, competition outside the US.Crazy_Ike said:If the PA could have pointed to any other sports league as an example of what the NHL should aim for without a cap, maybe that position wouldn't have been as laughable as it turned out to be.
The NHL had no problems with the reverse, however.
Imagine that, promoting spending time with your family. When ticket prices come down in Vancouver by 24% let me know.Timmy said:Well, I must say, the letter is an improvement over a previous comment by Linden, who said if fans can't afford tickets, then "they can just take their kids to the park, instead."
'Cause the league is so successful you can afford to be flippant....
Hoss said:Imagine that, promoting spending time with your family. When ticket prices come down in Vancouver by 24% let me know.
Resolute said:And yet, Linden still could not bring himself to apologize for his union's part in the cancellation of the season.
i wish we had those ticket prices here in vancouver - 10 to 35 bux - man thats sweetIcey said:There was a full page APOLOGY in today's Dallas Morning News. It read:
We're Sorry.
From now on, we'll keep the fight where it belongs.
On the ice.
And we'll prove it with lower ticket prices
and exciting fan perks all season long.
All of us at The Dallas Stars want to sincerely apologize to you, our fans.
While the league and the players' union were fighting, you were the ones who had to sit in the penalty box. But we're ready to make it up to you with lower prices, a faster-than-ever game and a better all-around hockey experience.
So get ready for hockey. And remember, the best part of fighting is making up!
That's what every team should be doing. Say what you want about the Stars and Tom Hicks, but in the end they are a classy team.
BTW - I hope it was okay to post the entire ad, but since it was an ad and not an article/story, I thought it would be okay.
Last time you are talking lockout?OTTSENS said:You want to talk about the lockout let's talk about the lockout. The owners are the only one responsible. Not the players. If the owners are to stupid the managed their team and make money without a cap how is that the players fault? Brian Burke said it the best when he said I had a cap fot the last five years in Vancouver is called a budget.
And that's last time I am talking lockout. I've been talking lockout for the last 10 months and I am sick of it.
that is pretty cool - for the first time i'm gonna get a cable package -Icey said:The $10 seat suck. I know why they are doing it, but seriously they are center ice at the top. The $35 seats aren't bad. They are putting their money where their mouth was. I appreciate that as a fan. They kept their word.
gscarpenter2002 said:Well, see, a lot of people DON'T think "both sides were equally to blame". some people want to see players own up to their responsibility. It STILL has not happened.
You, however, have the option to avoid the "Business of Hockey" portion of the HF Board.
Timmy said:Evidently, 90% of fans, 87% of players, and 100% of the owners don't agree with you, ...
bling said:....and just because a majority of red neck christian evangelists and greedy coporate shills did not agree with me and re-elected George Bush does not make it a good decision ...
Renholder said:I don't need anyone giving me advice for what I can and cannot do, or say in a message board. I'm fully conscious that you don't need to share my opinion. What I don't understand is why you had to go on making fun of me infront everyone like that? Are you implying that i'm a simpleton hockey fan that cannot discuss any business or lockout related issues regarding something we have all been involved in one way or another throughout the past year? I also noticed you attacked another hockey fan that didn't share your opinion on this issue and you replied to him in a similar , rude manner. That's not cool man, we can all act like civilised adults and treat each other with respect. It's all I ask for. I'm not trying to provoke you. I'm just trying to understand.I happen to enjoy the business section of this site. It is the place I frequent the most, but what I dont' need is people who think they are morally superior to everyone who doesn't share their opinion on a matter that shouldn't concearn us anymore. Nothing personal, unless you want to make it personal which is something I don't want.
I"m all for arguing on things that might have gone differently in this lockout. Although, I still stick to my opnion that the blame should be put on both sides I have to concede that neither sides have been very tactfull during negotiations and they have been less than stellar in how they treated their fans during this whole ordeal. You got to give credit where it's due, these hard headed individuals are atleast trying to mend the wounds they have instilled upon us. It will take time for the whole story to come out.
bling said:....and just because a majority of red neck christian evangelists and greedy coporate shills did not agree with me and re-elected George Bush does not make it a good decision ...