Speculation: Meruelo's first moves?

[Neighborhood Coyote]

Thoughts on the guys skating on to the ice under a giant Coyote head like they do in San Jose and Nashville?

Gave me an idea... they let a REAL coyote or even a pack of em run across the ice before every game... kind of like some college football teams do with some animals.

Can't say how well the coyotes will run on the ice, though.

Or, in that same note... During an intermission, they put a cage in the middle of the ice and Howler has to fight a pack of coyotes in the style of Jackie Moon fighting a bear in Semi-Pro.

 

[TheLegend]

There you go again, turning this into East Versus West!!!!

Gilbert is more south than east....

But in just a few short months they get a brand spanking new freeway connecting them to out here.

 

[Mosby]

Gave me an idea... they let a REAL coyote or even a pack of em run across the ice before every game... kind of like some college football teams do with some animals.

Reminded me of when the Bakersfield Condors brought a live bird/vulture on to the ice



Definitely worth the watch if you've never seen it. The whole thing was a clusterf***.

 

[Neighborhood Coyote]

Reminded me of when the Bakersfield Condors brought a live bird/vulture on to the ice



Definitely worth the watch if you've never seen it. The whole thing was a cluster****.

I'd never seen that... and I'm so glad I have now. "The bird's done. He's down the tunnel."

Fantastic!

 

[Imaravencawcaw]

Can somebody train a coyote to do this?

 

[Canis Latrans]

Thoughts on the guys skating on to the ice under a giant Coyote head like they do in San Jose and Nashville?

Make it a cactus or adobe abode instead.

 

[RemoAZ]

Reminded me of when the Bakersfield Condors brought a live bird/vulture on to the ice



Definitely worth the watch if you've never seen it. The whole thing was a cluster****.

That was outstanding. Thank you! I thought that guy broke a hip he went down so hard. The condor running through the bench was hilarious.

 

[LuckyNumber11]

For those of us Athletic subscribers, here's a really good article looking at some of the recent history of private vs. public funded arenas, and where we are trending. It's interesting how at the end of the article they said that governments are starting to look at stadiums as casinos and that gambling could completely change in game viewing. Makes me think that building with the tribe could be very intriguing.
As the Joe and the Palace are demolished, public cash for...

 

[Dirty Old Man]

For those of us Athletic subscribers, here's a really good article looking at some of the recent history of private vs. public funded arenas, and where we are trending. It's interesting how at the end of the article they said that governments are starting to look at stadiums as casinos and that gambling could completely change in game viewing. Makes me think that building with the tribe could be very intriguing.
As the Joe and the Palace are demolished, public cash for...

(from that article)

"It’s a wild west atmosphere of potential vast new revenue streams."

yeee-haw!

 

[Mosby]

If the choice is downtown Phoenix or somewhere East of that (Scottsdale, Salt River, ASU, etc.), what's the preference?

 

[moosemeister]

If the choice is downtown Phoenix or somewhere East of that (Scottsdale, Salt River, ASU, etc.), what's the preference?

SCOTTSDALE. 101 and 202 or maybe a little more north by talking stick

Downtown blows

 

[LuckyNumber11]

If the choice is downtown Phoenix or somewhere East of that (Scottsdale, Salt River, ASU, etc.), what's the preference?

I really like that casino Arizona spot that's just north of Rising's little pop up stadium

 

[Mosby]

I ask this knowing downtown Toronto is a total pain in the ass for traffic so gotta figure downtown Phoenix is the same (around Talking Stick, for example).

 

[Dirty Old Man]

I ask this knowing downtown Toronto is a total pain in the ass for traffic so gotta figure downtown Phoenix is the same (around Talking Stick, for example).

TSRA wasn't bad 1997-2003, even weeknights, because getting there was inbound when the bad traffic was outbound. From the East: 10 to 17 to 7th street, couple miles north, park South of the arena, easy peasy. I knew the guy whose produce warehouse I parked at for $5 on a first name basis.

Today....getting to the 10 17 split is a bit of a delay now, but I don't know if it would be worse after that or not.

 

[TheLegend]

I ask this knowing downtown Toronto is a total pain in the ass for traffic so gotta figure downtown Phoenix is the same (around Talking Stick, for example).

TSRA wasn't bad 1997-2003, even weeknights, because getting there was inbound when the bad traffic was outbound. From the East: 10 to 17 to 7th street, couple miles north, park South of the arena, easy peasy. I knew the guy whose produce warehouse I parked at for $5 on a first name basis.

Today....getting to the 10 17 split is a bit of a delay now, but I don't know if it would be worse after that or not.

I remember some of those warehouses charging $20. I would use the Collier Center building for parking. Easy to get in there..... and it ran about $7 back then, plus it's a short walk to both Chase and TSRA.

Westbound I-10 during the afternoon rush hour...... from the I-10/I-17 split all the way out to 51st Ave...... forget about it. It's usually a parking lot. (BTW.... the new Loop 202 South Mountain Freeway opening this fall bypasses all of it. ) Eastbound I-10 from the west valley going up to the SR-51/Loop 202 interchange (aka Mini Stack) usualy flows well.

I-17 and SR 51 inbound each morning the same..... and outbound in the afternoons. Same with the Loop 202 Santan Freeway.

 

[Sinurgy]

(BTW.... the new Loop 202 South Mountain Freeway opening this fall bypasses all of it. )

Man that is going to be glorious for a lot of people. The I-10 through downtown is absolutely horrible!

 

[CBJ goalie]

I ask this knowing downtown Toronto is a total pain in the ass for traffic so gotta figure downtown Phoenix is the same (around Talking Stick, for example).

I can attest to this, living 2 hours away from Toronto - but when I went to see the Coyotes play there this past season, I'd leave my place around 3pm for a 7pm game start....takes about an hour and a half to reach the 'border' of the GTA, and then about another hour and a half just to get downtown. No matter which road you take, you just can't get there quickly.....Toronto traffic is maddening.

That's why I'm so intrigued with any talk about whether the Coyotes play at GRA or another arena closer to downtown....I see both sides of it. Personally, I think they can (and should) make it work at GRA.
As has been discussed ad nauseum here, with everything they've been through in the last decade plus their lack of on ice success, they've still been able to get 70% attendance (average) - but winning will fix this. Guaranteed.
Hell, the Senators couldn't sell out their barn when they made it to the Conference Final a few years ago. I'm confident GRA would've been sold out if they made it that far.
Source:
Phoenix Coyotes 2011-2012 Playoffs Attendance | Hockey Attendance

 

[Mosby]

I usually head down to Buffalo to see the Coyotes closer to home. Everything is cheaper (tickets, parking, beer), drive is about the same, plus the Sabres suck so we have a good chance of winning

 

[azcanuck]

SCOTTSDALE. 101 and 202 or maybe a little more north by talking stick

Downtown blows

I imagine it gets built in that 202 red mountain/101 area. Maybe with the Natives?
I dont like a downtown option. I thought the light rail was a good option to Dback games until I rode on it. No thanks.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

If the choice is downtown Phoenix or somewhere East of that (Scottsdale, Salt River, ASU, etc.), what's the preference?

Scottsdale/Tempe, 100%, I don't care how much longer it takes me to drive there. Downtown is a logistical nightmare in comparison to just grabbing the Loop 101.

If there was any sort of actual effective mass transit option, I might think differently.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

1) GRA
2) Downtown
3) 101 / 202

 

[rt]

1) GRA
2) Downtown
3) 101 / 202

You accidentally flipped 1 and 3. Just a heads up.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

You accidentally flipped 1 and 3. Just a heads up.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

You accidentally flipped 1 and 3. Just a heads up.

I was going to say that the question assumed that we'd list in order of most preferred to least, but you beat me to it.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

I was going to say that the question assumed that we'd list in order of most preferred to least, but you beat me to it.

And I did just that. No need for another arena in the valley. What there is a need for is victory, no matter where they play.