Confirmed with Link: #MelnykOut Campaign - successfully raised 8K over this past weekend.

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thinkwild

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Yeah Condra made me do a double take too. Still, with proper messaging, and a proper messenger, many of those tough decisions could still have been sold to us at least a little bit as a rational plan that fits our status as a small market, revenue-challenged team. And perhaps even helped increase ticket sales rather than sabotage them.

Melnyk is now giving the impression to me that he is going to live up to the statement he made when blackmailing the city for a casino that Ottawa fans are used to being a developing team for the rest of the league. That he will now adopt the Ottawa Roughriders budget philosophy, sell off any expensive assets to save money, go with youth and then sell them when they come up for a ufa contracts, become a cap floor team to make as much cash flow before moving into a new arena. If that is his plan, i expect the same success the Roughriders had. Good luck with that Eugene Glieberman. Hope you can show enough humility to listen to the pros in your PR firm and put out a better message and plan instead of thinking that because you are a sheltered billionaire, you know better than anyone about everything.
 
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thammias

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Just playing devils advocate, without the aid of any public funding for this new planned arena, can you really blame Melnyk for trying to cut expenses. There is no way this city would help foot the bill for a new arena like they did in Edmonton. (I'm not advocating that we should.) Edmonton Arena cost $600 to build, not sure how deep Melnyk's partners pockets are for this development. Maybe this is more of an organizational rebuild than a hockey rebuild, pinch pennies for a couple years including taking money out of hockey ops, to help finance a shiny new downtown arena for the greater good of the future of the franchise. If that is indeed the case I could maybe understand what's going on.
 

Sensung

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Just playing devils advocate, without the aid of any public funding for this new planned arena, can you really blame Melnyk for trying to cut expenses. There is no way this city would help foot the bill for a new arena like they did in Edmonton. (I'm not advocating that we should.) Edmonton Arena cost $600 to build, not sure how deep Melnyk's partners pockets are for this development. Maybe this is more of an organizational rebuild than a hockey rebuild, pinch pennies for a couple years including taking money out of hockey ops, to help finance a shiny new downtown arena for the greater good of the future of the franchise. If that is indeed the case I could maybe understand what's going on.
If the budget and cost cutting had just started with the Lebreton deal, then I think a stronger case could be made, but Melnyk has been pinching pennies with this team for a lot longer than that.
 

InTkachukWeTrust

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The article pretty much nailed how I feel. Not exactly, but close. As a kid growing up I never ever thought of cheering for another team, but now I’m starting to think about it. I’ve stuck with the Sens through thick and thin and taken a lot of heat from friends who cheer for other clubs. I’m pretty close to jumping ship. Somethings gotta give
 

InTkachukWeTrust

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And if it gets bad enough, maybe I’ll put a #MelnykOut sign over the Sens logo on one of my jerseys and toss it on center ice. Don’t test me.
 
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Pangu

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Cry me a river. Melnyk isn't a down-on his luck homeless person that deserves our sympathy. He is a wealthy person that got that huge wealth by making slight improvements to off-patent drugs. Its fine stuff, but he's no Jennifer Doudna or anything and nobody every gave Doudna a billion dollars to buy an NHL team. So no sympathy is needed there.

What we all blame Melnyk for is not selling the team. Once he is done that, he will still have a ton of money to retire on, and meanwhile, the rest of us can hopefully enjoy a better-run team. Perfectly reasonable ending for everyone.
 

danielpalfredsson

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Bringing up Condra as an example of our supposed penny pinching or lack of loyalty to players waters down the point when there are actual good examples.

We didn't want to offer 3 years of term to a 4th line player when we felt we had young players in the pipeline who by the 3rd year would possibly be blocked by Condra. Since signing that contract, Condra has been buried in the AHL for the majority of time only playing 60 NHL games in almost 3 seasons. He also has gone unclaimed on waivers more than once.

Condra looked fantastic during the Dave Cameron stretch run, but so did Patrick Wiercioch, and so did Curtis Lazar. That run made many players look better than they were because we were getting red hot goaltending and Karlsson, Stone, Turris, and Hoffman were playing at a peak level that they never really got credit for because the amazing story that was Andrew Hammond hogged the narrative.

I still can't believe I've now typed a 4 paragraph post about Erik Condra's time as a Senator in the year 2018.
 
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RedWhiteBlackGold

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I would never switch teams no matter how bad management gets. Ever

All I can say is I never switched teams since I've been a fan in the early's 2k, but definitely don't make watching it a priority anymore either. The fun just isn't there anymore to tune in on regardless of a win or loss like it use to be. I'll tune in tonight but the on ice product will determine whether I keep interest or not regardless of results.
 

Icelevel

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Is there a list of the craziest dumbest most insulting things melnyk has said and done for people who aren't aware?
I think some people just think we want him to spend more money. It's more about not having an ahole represent our team.
 
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Blows me away that fans feel they have a right to have someone else put in millions each year to cover the costs of a team, without any budget limit. To bad the Sens weren't sold to the other guys... oh that's right when Melnyk bought the Sens there was nobody else and we came through the Bryden years when he couldn't meet payroll.

Sure it's not perfect but the grass is always greener somewhere else. Having an ownership change guarantees exactly zippo.
 
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saskriders

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Blows me away that fans feel they have a right to have someone else put in millions each year to cover the costs of a team, without any budget limit. To bad the Sens weren't sold to the other guys... oh that's right when Melnyk bought the Sens there was nobody else and we came through the Bryden years when he couldn't meet payroll.

Sure it's not perfect but the grass is always greener somewhere else. Having an ownership change guarantees exactly zippo.

If I am not mistaken @BonkTastic has posted about how their were other interested buyers. Nobody is saying Melnyk should spend money he doesn't have. But if he can't afford to put in the money required to properly operate an NHL team he should bring in partners, or sell the team. If he wants to own the team despite not being able to afford it he is only hurting himself by creating a product that will sell poorly .
 

Deku

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Blows me away that fans feel they have a right to have someone else put in millions each year to cover the costs of a team, without any budget limit. To bad the Sens weren't sold to the other guys... oh that's right when Melnyk bought the Sens there was nobody else and we came through the Bryden years when he couldn't meet payroll.

Sure it's not perfect but the grass is always greener somewhere else. Having an ownership change guarantees exactly zippo.

What the hell?
You think operating an NHL team on a strict budget that's nowhere near the cap is fine? With a bare bones staff as well?
All we want is the team to be run & spend like 90% of other NHL franchises...

Sure the grass isnt always greener, but I think the chances of a new owner being worse than the current worst owner in the NHL are quite slim.
 
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Sensung

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Blows me away that fans feel they have a right to have someone else put in millions each year to cover the costs of a team, without any budget limit. To bad the Sens weren't sold to the other guys... oh that's right when Melnyk bought the Sens there was nobody else and we came through the Bryden years when he couldn't meet payroll.

Sure it's not perfect but the grass is always greener somewhere else. Having an ownership change guarantees exactly zippo.
There is zero evidence that Melnyk has lost millions running his Ottawa holdings.

The best estimate we have is that he made 10M last year running the team alone.
 

Gil Gunderson

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Blows me away that fans feel they have a right to have someone else put in millions each year to cover the costs of a team, without any budget limit. To bad the Sens weren't sold to the other guys... oh that's right when Melnyk bought the Sens there was nobody else and we came through the Bryden years when he couldn't meet payroll.

Sure it's not perfect but the grass is always greener somewhere else. Having an ownership change guarantees exactly zippo.
It couldn't be any worse. We already have the cheapest office and group of scouts in the league and we're run like a CHL team. Melnyk is almost literally penny pinching.

There isn't a team in the league I wouldn't trade owners with. Even the sunbelt franchises everyone thinks should be relocated wouldn't have this circus around their star players like we just had.
 
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