Rumor: McKenzie says Wings shopping Ouellet

kliq

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Because the roster limits are different at the moment and after the deadline.

They want to keep their own guys up for now, like 14 forwards. But after trade deadline the 23-man roster limit disappears, any many contenders want to have some experienced depth which can succeed on small 10-minute icetime, if theres injuries on a long playoff run.

I completely forgot about that, good point. I could see a team throwing us a late pick for him.
 

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Because the roster limits are different at the moment and after the deadline.

They want to keep their own guys up for now, like 14 forwards. But after trade deadline the 23-man roster limit disappears, any many contenders want to have some experienced depth which can succeed on small 10-minute icetime, if theres injuries on a long playoff run.

A little different situation but we also saw the leafs trade for Pickard right after he cleared waivers. It's really not that uncommon
 

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I think Booth will fetch us a draft pick. He is perfect dpeth scorer for contender 4th line. 4th liners play with limited (~10) minutes, and he donn't have to worry getting more. Score with that 1.69/60min pace from 4th line (same pace as Matthews), and he is a great asset.

6th-7th round pick.
Booth has passed waivers at least 5 times this season including yesterday. Doubt there is any interest in a good player getting 7 minutes a game. Which is a shame cause Booth has been playing well.
 

kliq

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Three assets that are untradable: Larkin, Mantha and the '18 first round pick. Shop literally everyone else.

Nobody is untradable, if the right offer comes along for anyone you need to pull the trigger. I wouldn't actively shop any of those guys of course, but you always have to listen to offers if they are out there.
 
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There's 8 defencemen now if we look at the big picture.

1. Green
2. Kronwall
3. DeKeyser
4. Daley
5. Ericsson
6. Ouellet
7. Jensen
8. Hronek (knocking the door)

What Holland is going to do?

A) trade Green for future draft picks.
B) trade Ouellet, who has value, for future draft picks.

C) bring in a prospect, like Hronek.
D) sign UFA defenceman, like Jack Johnson, a free asset, to be sold later, again, for futures.

And next year we will have:

1. Johnson
2. DeKeyser
3. Kronwall
4. Daley
5. Ericsson
6. Hronek
7. Jensen

Next year he is gonna sell bodies from Kronwall/Daley/Ericsson/Jensen group.

And will bring kids in. And will sign UFAs again.

Reapeat, repeat. UFAs are not any kind of problem. Always a free asset. Sell another asset for futures. Repeat. Bring a kid in drafted with a pick from earlier trade for futures. Repeat. Repeat.

At some point you will start winning in values, when you never buy players. The talent group grows bigger, towards a contender talent group.

We did sell futures for 2 decades. Now do it in an opposite way and as long as we get lucky in lottery, or some of multiple draft picks will surprise us.

Only thing you have to avoid, is losing assets for nothing. If some player is gonna retire as a Wing because of injuries, then so be it. It's life, bad things happen. But turn valuable players for picks. Doesn't matter old or young. If you turn old player for futures, great. But it you turn mediocre player for futures, also great. Doesn't matter. Transfer the player value forward. But don't lose anybody to UFA you did pay for. Do it exact opposite way, turn free assets for picks. Repeat.
A decent plan, but then the no trade and no movement clauses need to stop getting added to everybody we sign, or it'll be tough to keep flipping players.
 

Henkka

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A decent plan, but then the no trade and no movement clauses need to stop getting added to everybody we sign, or it'll be tough to keep flipping players.

It can be in first couple of years and ther disappear, like latest contracts have been structured. Obviously those are stuctured to sell, if that season goes down from the toilet.
 

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