McDavid or Matthews

[Maplebeasts]

So we'll just ignore games after #53

What games after 53? He hasn't played any more.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

What games after 53? He hasn't played any more.

typical excuses. why are you ignoring how poor his goal scoring numbers are in the games he hasn't played in?

 

[Maplebeasts]

typical excuses. why are you ignoring how poor his goal scoring numbers are in the games he hasn't played in?

f*** me man I'm so stupid. How could I not penalize him for games he didn't play in?

 

[Quiet Jack]

What games after 53? He hasn't played any more.

"He also had more goals than Laine had at game 53" as if the games after #53 don't count. We should just ignore what Laine has done lately, teehee

 

[ohcomeonref]

Matthews pace at 53 games is more important than what Laine did after 53 games, duh!

 

[GlitchMarner]

This threads need to die.

I'm a Leafs fan and appreciate Matthews, but there's no sense in seriously comparing him to McDavid when Connor outscored him by 31 points last season and won the Art Ross and Hart and Matthews is having an injury-plagued season as a sophomore and won't finish nearly as high in the scoring race as McDavid will this season. And if Matthews is better defensively, there's still no good argument he should be considered the better player at this point.

The team success argument? Seriously? Compare TOR's roster to EDM's. RNH is the Oilers' third leading scorer and he has 36 points. Nine Leafs have more than than 36 points.

Anyway, time to go back to ignoring this thread.

 

[Ainec]

when Winds of Winter comes out I'm going to boycott it cause it took George so long

Instead I'll be reading this thread from page 1. Should be on par with ASOIAF's dark comedy and intrigue

 

[Maplebeasts]

Matthews pace at 53 games is more important than what Laine did after 53 games, duh!

This isn't a Laine thread but Laine's recent goal scoring streak is a perfect example of unsustainable puck luck. At one point he was shooting 50%. That doesn't come close to happening for any stretches of games like 99.9 percent of a career for any player.

 

[Sojourn]

This isn't a Laine thread but Laine's recent goal scoring streak is a perfect example of unsustainable puck luck. At one point he was shooting 50%. That doesn't come close to happening for any stretches of games like 99.9 percent of a career for any player.

And?

Matthews was shooting at something like 30% for a period of time, and there was a long thread about Matthews being the best player in the game.

Let's avoid hypocrisy here.

 

[Maplebeasts]

And?

Matthews was shooting at something like 30% for a period of time, and there was a long thread about Matthews being the best player in the game.

Let's avoid hypocrisy here.

No there wasn't, with the exception of a few crazy posters. Most of us said he was clearly below McDavid, yet was among the league's elite. Regardless 30% over a span of around 10 games<<<<50%

 

[Sojourn]

No there wasn't, with the exception of a few crazy posters. Most of us said he was clearly below McDavid, yet was among the league's elite. Regardless 30% over a span of around 10 games<<<<50%

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/auston-matthews-scoring-pace.2404875

Sure.

Laine isn't shooting 50% on the season, so you're basically just arguing the "level" of unsustainable shooting percentages. You know, it's worth noting that last season he had 36 goals in 73 games. For as much as certain people like to talk about how Matthews is unique because he was a teenager who scored 40 goals... Laine was on pace for 40 goals, and at an even younger age. Maybe Laine is just a great goal scorer. Food for thought.

 

[hoglund]

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/auston-matthews-scoring-pace.2404875

Sure.

Laine isn't shooting 50% on the season, so you're basically just arguing the "level" of unsustainable shooting percentages. You know, it's worth noting that last season he had 36 goals in 73 games. For as much as certain people like to talk about how Matthews is unique because he was a teenager who scored 40 goals... Laine was on pace for 40 goals, and at an even younger age. Maybe Laine is just a great goal scorer. Food for thought.

You've hijacked this thread, Laine isn't mentioned in the title, it's time to start a new thread.

 

[North Cole]

You've hijacked this thread, Laine isn't mentioned in the title, it's time to start a new thread.

28 goals in 53 games pal and all while in my opinion not being full healthy for the majority of the season. Scary what a fully healthy guy could do, he also had more goals than Laine had at game 53 and he's close to 50 so.....

This is what started the conversation that Sojourn is having, on Page 177. FTR Laine has been mentioned on like the last 5 pages, chill.

 

[Sojourn]

You've hijacked this thread, Laine isn't mentioned in the title, it's time to start a new thread.

I’ve hijacked it?

 

[North Cole]

I’ve hijacked it?

LOL, he just singled you out because the facts are too strong.
Found someone who knows what they are talking about...Better get them thread banned

 

[Maplebeasts]

The fact that this thread is 200+ pages long is evidence there are more than just a 'few crazy posters' when it comes to Matthews.

And the number of Laine threads lately suggest the same if not more for Laine. Every sensible person knew this threead was a farce.

 

[hoglund]

I’ve hijacked it?

If you're unaware to "hijack" a thread means you start posting off the topic of the title and comment on something entirely different like something that you're interested in eg. Laine.

 

[McDNicks17]

If you're unaware to "hijack" a thread means you start posting off the topic of the title and comment on something entirely different like something that you're interested in eg. Laine.

You realize the irony, right?

 

[hoglund]

McDavid is probably better than Mathews, he has more points while playing on a weaker team.

 

[McDNicks17]

McDavid is probably better than Mathews, he has more points while playing on a weaker team.

Also probably worth noting that when you look at xGF at 5v5, it says McDavid has been just a little unlucky while Matthews has been extremely lucky.

McDavid: 64 GF vs. 65 xGF
Matthews: 54 GF vs. 41 xGF

 

[TheNumber4]

This threads need to die.

I'm a Leafs fan and appreciate Matthews, but there's no sense in seriously comparing him to McDavid when Connor outscored him by 31 points last season and won the Art Ross and Hart and Matthews is having an injury-plagued season as a sophomore and won't finish nearly as high in the scoring race as McDavid will this season. And if Matthews is better defensively, there's still no good argument he should be considered the better player at this point.

The team success argument? Seriously? Compare TOR's roster to EDM's. RNH is the Oilers' third leading scorer and he has 36 points. Nine Leafs have more than than 36 points.

Anyway, time to go back to ignoring this thread.

A reasonable, rational, and intelligent response. Take notes other Leafs fans, no one on these boards cares for loose puck retreivals and whatever other special stats you need to justify Matthews being on McDavids' level.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Pretty embarrassing this thread even exists. The players are clearly on two different levels.

 

[Metroid]

Why aren't any of the mods doing their jobs?
Close this thing already, Jesus Murphy.

 

[bukwas]

Why aren't any of the mods doing their jobs?
Close this thing already, Jesus Murphy.

Nah, it's good for updating the ignore list. I just added a couple more.

 

[Maplebeasts]

A reasonable, rational, and intelligent response. Take notes other Leafs fans, no one on these boards cares for loose puck retreivals and whatever other special stats you need to justify Matthews being on McDavids' level.

Except few of us think he is. Also as if you're the authoritative figure to judge what posts are intelligent or not.