Hobble
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McDavid is one of the fastest players in the league, not THE fastest. People tend to forget that, in the 80's, you also had Ducky, Gartner, and countless others that could just flat out fly, also talented players, but they also had to endure that crap too. Mario Lemieux is a perfect example of it, because of his size, people thought he should take care of the crap he endured, but you can't magically make a player into tough guy like that.
I think McDavid would put up some crazy numbers, but he would never top the numbers guys like Mario, Wayne, etc did.
I would think he could get over 100 goals, mainly due to equipment. But not 200 points, since he's not as good of a playmaker. He'd have to rely purely on speed and shooting ability advantages from the equipment. I'd say something like 105G + 50A = 155pts
Putting a modern player in an earlier era but still giving them modern training/equipment/nutrition/ etc via time machine is pointless. It's like saying how would the Civil War ended if the Confederacy had tanks, planes and M16's.
Considering Mcdavid has had 70 and 67 assist in the modern NHL in two seasons this is just plain wrong.
I absolutely think there are a good amount of players in today's NHL who would outscore Gretzky if they magically teleported to the 80s. I think even Darren freaking Helm could score 50-60+ goals in the 80s, it wouldnt take much effort for him to skate around everyone else on the ice and wrist one past a stand up goalie.Again, the only thing delusional is the idea that a slew of current NHL players would be hitting 75 goals and 200 points.
Because again, McDavid isn't THAT far away from the pack.
Yeah he did, but that's not the point. It's not that there weren't players that shot hard back then, but rather it was the exceptional individual that could do it to that degree. Composite sticks have widened the number of players that can generate that type of velocity.
Here's a TED talk discussing the question of are athletes really getting better? It uses sprinting as an example. Bottom line, no they're not. It's the equipment that's gettting better.
Contrary to opinions in this thread, I don't think speed was invented in 2006.I absolutely think there are a good amount of players in today's NHL who would outscore Gretzky if they magically teleported to the 80s. I think even Darren freaking Helm could score 50-60+ goals in the 80s, it wouldnt take much effort for him to skate around everyone else on the ice and wrist one past a stand up goalie.
The sports almanac is a reference to Biff in "back to the future", which McDavid will still be able to see in the theatre in the 80s.
This by game 40?I would think he could get over 100 goals, mainly due to equipment. But not 200 points, since he's not as good of a playmaker. He'd have to rely purely on speed and shooting ability advantages from the equipment. I'd say something like 105G + 50A = 155pts
Depends on what everyone else is using.What does Mario Lemieux look like with modern skates and stick in 87’?
100 goals easy?
265 points?
Ha, I've seen that presentation and it's chock full of laughable fallacies. I actually responded on YouTube but I'll just copy & paste my comment here.
"I enjoyed the presentation, however his claims on the cycling hour record are inaccurate. The primary factor for the increased hour distance was the advent of EPO and an environment that permitted its unfettered abuse. Note that both the cycling hour record and the mile world record were set the same year; speeds have since decreased in spite of the introduction of more sophisticated technology. The reason for this is endurance athletes have had to curtail or completely cease their use of EPO since the introduction of increasingly efficient testing."
What does Mario Lemieux look like with modern skates and stick in 87’?
100 goals easy?
265 points?
Gretz and Lemieux would still outscore him, he'd be third in the pecking order.
5% increase in production, it’s not magic just slightly lighter and better stick and skates. McDavid would put up 175+ goals, 175+ assists, 350+ points every season in the 80’s. He would get breakaways at will, make players look like pylons, and easily finish with that horrendous goaltending.
Depends on what everyone else is using.
Then maybe. I'd guess more around 225-250.Obviously per the thread everyone else is in 80s gear.