McDavid in the 80s

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  1. NHL WAR

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    Teleport present day McDavid back to 1980. He still has his modern equipment and training. How does his career unfold?
     
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    Better than Gretzky + Lemieux + Orr + Howe.
     
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    He scores well over 100 goals, and makes maybe $150,000 per year.
     
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    Still multiple tiers above Matthews.
     
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    lol he scores on EVERY shift of every game. He probably has 400 goals
     
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    He's out of the NHL in a few years because of all the huge hits and hard slashes he takes.

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    Stop trying to make guys better than Gretzky.

    It's never gonna happen no matter how much mental gymnastics we throw at it.
     
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    You could literally just play him with 4 of the most violent and scary men in the league and he’d still score a goal every time he touches the puck (if you were to do what the OP says).
     
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    But if we drop him into the 80's, we have to drop him in their with 80's style skates and sticks, and 80's level of training.

    It's a completely different game.
     
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    I am sorry if it came off that way.... definitely wasnt my intention. That is part of reason I added in the modern equipment/ training condition..... so that it was clear McDavid had an advantage versus Gretzky and the rest of the league. I picked the 80s because of the much more goal friendly environment. It was just a coincidence that the 80s are the decade which featured the peak of the greatest player to ever lace up the skates.
     
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    His scoring % would be north of 50, he'd win the fastest skater competition by a few seconds, he'd get all 3 stars of the night 12 times per season, his team's power play would be in the 65-70% range. In playoff drafts, to keep it fair, not only could you not draft McDavid but his linemates as well.

    They'd say the only way a player can be that good is if he was teleported here from the future. It would be ridiculous.
     
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    Dave Brown slashes his wrist in half?
     
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    People would have to catch him first to hit him, plus the physicality of 80s hockey is overstated on here. It wasn't close to the 90s and 2000s. How did Gretzky survive?

    Anyway, he would clearly score well over 200+ points, maybe even 300 or 400, but it's obviously not a remotely fair comparison. Give him 80s equipment and his totals drop a lot, but he still scores more than Gretzky.
     
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    I didn't get the impression that that was your intention, but it's gonna go that way, based on what I've seen in the past. Anyway, I'll give you an answer.

    Let's look at the scoring leaders from, I don't know, 1985.

    Gretzky had 208 [:help:], then Kurri with 135 who we'll toss out of the sample because he was eating feeds from Gretzky, then Hawerchuk with 130. I like the Hawerchuk comparison because he's right around the same age. Also, let's say McDavid is on the Jets instead of Hawerchuk. If he's on the Oilers with Gretzky, it ruins the sample. If he's on the Jets with Hawerchuk it ruins the sample. Let's assume that McDavid is carrying a team like he is now. He's on the Jets and Hawerchuk isn't. He has the advantage of training, so instead of Hawerchuk's 130, I'm gonna say 65 goals, 145 points.

    That's would put him pretty clearly #2 behind Gretzky. Still way, way, way behind him, but pretty clearly #2. And that's with the advantage of modern training.
     
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    Gretzky would still have more assist but similar production.
     
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    He'd have monstrous stats, but I still don't think he'd break 92/215, even with modern equipment. A Storm Trooper with better equipment still can't beat Yoda.
     
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    He would be highly productive.

    Of course, most stars would run amok in the 80s if you kept that era unchanged and gave the transplanted player modern equipment, workout regimens and nutritional science. I'm not sure what these what-if scenarios are meant to prove... other than that the game has come a long way.
     
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    I think that's an off assumption, Mcdavid would be the fastest skater in the league by a lot. In the fastest period of the NHL, he's still multiple steps faster.

    The premise is modern training and strategies, he'd easily put up Gretzky's numbers, and most likely score more goals while Gretz uses passing to match him. Every finals would be their respective teams.
     
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    You could put a team on the powerplay the entire year, and nobody on that team would break 92/215.
     
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    See OP, I told you this is how it was gonna go.
     
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    You really think that Mcdavid would only put up 145 when he puts up 100+ today?

    Keep dreaming bud.
     
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