Proposal: McAvoy to Leafs

[Stickpucker]

Value aside this makes the Bruins a lot worse on the ice and the Leafs a lot better. Both teams are looking to compete now. Bruins pass.

 

[Leafs87]

Boston isn’t trading their 1D. Would you trade Rielly for a 1st, DeBrusk, Vaakanainen, and Lauzon?

Which one of these players is equivalent to Nylander or Dermott ?

This is a fleecing by Boston to get that package. Mcavoy is great but that’s a lot of value.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Which one of these players is equivalent to Nylander or Dermott ?

This is a fleecing by Boston to get that package. Mcavoy is great but that’s a lot of value.

If we are nitpicking. Debrusk is certainly at least at the level of Dermott and perhaps Nylander. Vaak should be better than Dermott also.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

If we are nitpicking. Debrusk is certainly at least at the level of Dermott and perhaps Nylander. Vaak should be better than Dermott also.

None are equal to Nylander.

Debrusk is at least equal to Dermott, I'd take Debrusk over him in a heartbeat.

Vaak hasn't played a single professional hockey game yet. There is no chance "Yaak should be better than Dermott also" is a valid statement yet. I would put Dermott over Vaak/Lauzon at this point.

 

[tony d]

I think both teams will look at this but doubt it happens. I think Mcavoy's to important to the Bruins long term for them to move him.

 

[Leafs87]

If we are nitpicking. Debrusk is certainly at least at the level of Dermott and perhaps Nylander. Vaak should be better than Dermott also.

Debrusk similar to Dermott okay maybe. But to Nylander not even close.

Vaak should could would, until he’s not he’s not. If we’re going by this trade he’d be the Lil swap in on a reverse trade.

 

[Critical13]

If we are nitpicking. Debrusk is certainly at least at the level of Dermott and perhaps Nylander. Vaak should be better than Dermott also.

I think if you had Nylander and we had Debrusk, you would call us homer Leaf fans for saying that.

Vaak has a long way to go to be better than Dermott. Dermott was the better prospect at the same age and has developed nicely.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

Debrusk similar to Dermott okay maybe. But to Nylander not even close.

Vaak should could would, until he’s not he’s not. If we’re going by this trade he’d be the Lil swap in on a reverse trade.

I'm sure a lot of people would rather have Debrusk than Dermott, this isn't really an "okay maybe similar" situation. Agreed on Nylander though.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

I think if you had Nylander and we had Debrusk, you would call us homer Leaf fans for saying that.

Vaak has a long way to go to be better than Dermott. Dermott was the better prospect at the same age and has developed nicely.

Don't think this is true. Vaak was a 1st round pick and rated higher at the time I believe.

 

[Leafs87]

I'm sure a lot of people would rather have Debrusk than Dermott, this isn't really an "okay maybe similar" situation. Agreed on Nylander though.

And I’m sure a lot of people would rather have Dermott so it certainly is a maybe situation. Going by current NHL value a top 4 d man > top 6 winger. Maybe Dermott is currently just under a top 4 but Debrusk is also just under a top 6. I feel this year Debrusk will be a top 6 and Dermott a top 4 though

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

And I’m sure a lot of people would rather have Dermott so it certainly is a maybe situation. Going by current NHL value a top 4 d man > top 6 winger. Maybe Dermott is currently just under a top 4 but Debrusk is also just under a top 6. I feel this year Debrusk will be a top 6 and Dermott a top 4 though

I just disagree, I think the majority would rather have Debrusk. It would be a good poll I think.

Debrusk played in the top 6 the entire year last year, not really sure what you're talking about "just under top six." He and Krejci have great chemistry.

 

[Critical13]

Don't think this is true. Vaak was a 1st round pick and rated higher at the time I believe.

They play in different leagues, so we won't really know until Vaak hits the AHL or NHL. Draft + 2 was when Dermott rose to be a significant prospect, so we'll see if Vaak has the same trajectory. In Dermott's D +3, he became a regular. That's a healthy trajectory for a defenceman, regardless of draft position. Vaak might have higher potential (not sure if I agree with that).

 

[weinsink]

Long story short, if it isn't for Matthews then don't bother picking up the phone

Pass on glasshouse matthews too,charlie tuna ain't going anywhere.

 

[Critical13]

I just disagree, I think the majority would rather have Debrusk. It would be a good poll I think.

Debrusk played in the top 6 the entire year last year, not really sure what you're talking about "just under top six." He and Krejci have great chemistry.

I would take Debrusk now, but I am not sure if that's because I undervalue defencemen or not. It's much easier to be a top 6 forward at 21 than a top 4 defenceman.

Still, I think Debrusk is likely worth more. We will see how he does this season.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

They play in different leagues, so we won't really know until Vaak hits the AHL or NHL. Draft + 2 was when Dermott rose to be a significant prospect, so we'll see if Vaak has the same trajectory. In Dermott's D +3, he became a regular. That's a healthy trajectory for a defenceman, regardless of draft position. Vaak might have higher potential (not sure if I agree with that).

Ok well you said "Dermott was a better prospect at the same age" not "we won't really know until Vaak hits the AHL."

I agree with this statement, not the first.

 

[hector morrison]

I can tell you he is an excellent influence on his game and the McAvoy has pretty much rejuvenated Chara's career. It's a relationship that has been mutually beneficial.

A symbiotic relationship ? Ok ,could be! I was hinting at the confidence factor seeing as how Charlie likely feels very protected out there! When Chara is done,opponents will not respect Charlie as much...it will be a different feel for him .

 

[Notsince67]

Dermott is small sample size, and liljegren is no sample size.. yet ive seen a leaf fan claim liljegren will be > mcavoy... or that mcavoy is overated

Really no point for boston to move him to toronto at all.... unless matthews is in deal and even then its questionable

I think McAvoy is awesome but the Bruins would absolutely trade him for Matthews.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Jesus. The Leafs are getting FLEECED here.

Ya, we should go for our standard offer of Brown, 2nd & Carrick for McAvoy. Normally it would be something like Leivo, 2nd & Neilsen but we've upgraded a bit for McAvoy.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

McAvoy and Donato for Carrick, Leivo and a 2nd. You will take it and you will love it, Boston!

LOL. You have us figured out. I said the same thing (almost), but you beat me to it.

 

[powerstuck]

I would question your hockey knowledge if this was serious. I get the Bruins won't deal McAvoy, but if Matthews was offered....they'd be nuts to say no.

But Matthews will never be offered so it's pointless.
You guys like him so much I doubt you would accept to trade him for McDavid or Crosby or Wayne Gretzky.

 

[BHD]

Bruins should not be trading McAvoy....period.

Agreed. I'll do both sides a favor by closing this.