Proposal: Max Pacioretty for RNH+(+?)

[Riptide]

I am already calling my shot that when the oilers move Nuge--the trade will be viewed as the oilers gave him away and that is what will happen

Almost certainly. On the other hand if they get an even half decent return for him, HF will be crucifying the other GM for "overpaying".

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Habs need a C who can drive offence, especially if they are moving Pacs who creates majority of his goals by himself. RNH is not that guy. Looking around the league there's not really a 1:1 fit, either Montreal needs to involve a 3rd team to get pieces that work or keep Pacs and try and package something else together for a veteran C on a rebuilding team

 

[mrinsane]

I would offer a 1rst pick + for Nuge.

 

[Seedling]

RNH + slepyshev ??

Dream on. You can keep "Captain" Pacciorety. That's a huge overpay for him too. Slepy will probably get 20 this year and RNH isn't an issue here. This trade would just make us overpay to become worse as a team. Just terrible.

 

[Halakitlikethat]

Literally every single RNH thread Plekaenc + has been offered. Every single one.
Has that offer ever gotten Habs fans anywhere?

Why would Edmonton do that? It makes zero sense.

Guess it's a good thing fans don't negotiate for the GM. The team doesn't care what the fans think about deals from either side.

 

[TopTenPlayz]

C>W. Edmonton certainly wouldn't be adding **** - especially with RNH having 4 years left on his contract.

Using this logic, Toews>Kane, Stastny>Tarasenko, hell Martin Straka>Jagr etc.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Guess it's a good thing fans don't negotiate for the GM. The team doesn't care what the fans think about deals from either side.

Of course not, but you'd think after the five thousandth Plekanec + spare part + meh pick offer gets shot down in flames people would get more creative.

Edmonton is better off waiting until next offseason. Centres that can play top 6 are always in demand and RNH will only be 25 this time next year. We'll get better offers than what's being offered here.

 

[Captain Controversy]

Nuge will put up sixty to seventy points this year. Yes some will Come from playing with Mcdavid. His value will Increase and the oilers will get a good player for him.

 

[Never]

Nuge will put up sixty to seventy points this year. Yes some will Come from playing with Mcdavid. His value will Increase and the oilers will get a good player for him.

Saying RNH will put up 60-70 pts is somewhat bold given his career high is 56. Also, why would he be playing with McDavid?

 

[Hostile Offer]

Absolutely correct. The Oilers need cap space, and a more mature and defensive minded third line centre.

I don't think Nuge is a bad fit for 3C because of his play, he's solid defensively.

 

[Riptide]

Using this logic, Toews>Kane, Stastny>Tarasenko, hell Martin Straka>Jagr etc.

Yes because that's exactly what I said. Clearly the logic escapes you.

 

[Riptide]

Of course not, but you'd think after the five thousandth Plekanec + spare part + meh pick offer gets shot down in flames people would get more creative.

Edmonton is better off waiting until next offseason. Centres that can play top 6 are always in demand and RNH will only be 25 this time next year. We'll get better offers than what's being offered here.

And he'll still have 3 years on his contract (which is a good thing for his trade value).

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Nuge will put up sixty to seventy points this year. Yes some will Come from playing with Mcdavid. His value will Increase and the oilers will get a good player for him.

Well if we are allowed to hallucinate Pacs will pot fitty and put up 80 pts and get us Toews in return

Drug induced hypotheticals and 'Pace' arguments should be banned from HF

 

[smirob]

Pacioretty is not being moved in a deal for RNH

 

[Benstheman]

And he'll still have 3 years on his contract (which is a good thing for his trade value).

But his salary is horrible, so is contract status does what to his value??

 

[Benstheman]

Pacioretty is not being moved in a deal for RNH

Defensively : Patches = RNH
Offensively : Patches >>> RNH

The fact that RNH is a center and Pacioretty a winger does not cover the offensive difference between the two.

Contract status for me is equal has Pacioretty only 2 years but RNH salary is way too much.

For me, a 1 vs 1 swap would be fair if there was salary retained on RNH's contract, like 1M$/year. If no retention, Oilers need to add.

 

[vokiel]

Montreal gets a center they need....

Failure!

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

C>W. Edmonton certainly wouldn't be adding **** - especially with RNH having 4 years left on his contract.

C>W when the players have comparable skill level, that's not the case with Pacioretty and RNH. Just because he's a center doesn't mean he automatically has more value, that line of thinking is ass backwards. Berglund>Tarasenko, right??? I mean he is a center...

Pacioretty + Byron for RNH + Sekera

Throw in Davidson if you want him. Byron would be money on the Oilers, he had 22 goals and 43 points last year and makes 1.1 million for 2 more seasons.

Pacioretty and Byron combined for 110 points last season while making 5.6 million total, and they're signed for 2 more years.

Edmonton saves 6 million annually for the next few years and gets the best player in the deal, Montreal improves their two biggest areas of need, even though Sekera is injured for the first half of the season. Edmonton doesn't even really need Sekera anymore as they have Klefbom, Russel, and Nurse down the left side.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

C>W when the players have comparable skill level, that's not the case with Pacioretty and RNH. Just because he's a center doesn't mean he automatically has more value, that line of thinking is ass backwards. Berglund>Tarasenko, right??? I mean he is a center...

Pacioretty + Byron for RNH + Sekera

Throw in Davidson if you want him. Byron would be money on the Oilers, he had 22 goals and 43 points last year and makes 1.1 million for 2 more seasons.

Pacioretty and Byron combined for 110 points last season while making 5.6 million total, and they're signed for 2 more years.

Edmonton saves 6 million annually for the next few years and gets the best player in the deal, Montreal improves their two biggest areas of need, even though Sekera is injured for the first half of the season. Edmonton doesn't even really need Sekera anymore as they have Klefbom, Russel, and Nurse down the left side.

Edmonton isn't trading a top six C and a top 4 D for two wingers we don't especially need.

 

[Riptide]

But his salary is horrible, so is contract status does what to his value??

Not really. Sure he's not a #1C like it was hoped he'd be when he was drafted and when he signed that contract, but he is a young skilled #2C. But then he's also not paid as a #1C. RyJo & Kuznetsov both just signed for ~8m. #2Cs cost between 5-6m (Dubinsky, Johnson, etc).

Is his contract a little high? Sure... but not nearly to the extent that some are suggesting.

 

[Captain97]

The add on RNH would have to be enormous to get Patches. He is one of the top goal scorers in the NHL, I believe second in even strength goals over the past 5 years. And has received many selke votes. He is horribly underrated on this board.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Not really. Sure he's not a #1C like it was hoped he'd be when he was drafted and when he signed that contract, but he is a young skilled #2C. But then he's also not paid as a #1C. RyJo & Kuznetsov both just signed for ~8m. #2Cs cost between 5-6m (Dubinsky, Johnson, etc).

Is his contract a little high? Sure... but not nearly to the extent that some are suggesting.

RNH is a great #3C but on the low end of #2s, Habs already have a $6MM #3C, we don't need another one

 

[SullivanT]

Pacioretty-McDavid-Puljujarvi would be fire

Lol the PCP line

 

[Riptide]

RNH is a great #3C but on the low end of #2s, Habs already have a $6MM #3C, we don't need another one

He might be on the lower end of #2Cs... but that still means he's a #2C - something Montreal doesn't have.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

He might be on the lower end of #2Cs... but that still means he's a #2C - something Montreal doesn't have.

Chucky and Danault can fight over #2C if that's the case, we need someone who can be on the low end of a #1 if Pacs is on the move, worst case a high end #2