Proposal: Max Pacioretty for Little/Zetterberg/Spezza
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AveryStar4Eva
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Even though Dallas doesn't need LW's of Montreal offered Patches for Spezza I'd do it in a second
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THall4
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Of the 3 players in the OP...If Bergevin traded Pacioretty for any of those players 1 for 1..he should be fired immediately.
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wat? We have Seguin, Spezza, Hanzal, Faksa, Shore all as centers. We then also have Janmark who was a center until we had no space for him, Dickinson in the minors would has a shot at checking the roster is a C/LW and Cracknell can play C.
We are soo deep at C its pretty crazy and if this was offered I would easily jump all over this.
Benn-Seguin-Radulov
Patches-Hanzal-Janmark/Shore/Ritchie/Nichushkin in a year
Would be a great top 6
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Deam78
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Not a fan of Hanzal on a top 6, but yeah, that would be awesome for you guys.
Don't you prefer this:
Pacioretty-Seguin-Radulov
Janmark-Benn-Nichuskin/others you mentionned
I was just wondering how frequently is Benn used at C.
Bergevin would be assassinated if he traded Patches for Zetterberg
just awful value on all fronts for MTL
Zetterberg also likely to sharply decline in the next year or so and has negative value for his cap hit and term remaining
especially for one of the best 28 year old power forwards in the league
just awful value on all fronts for MTL
Zetterberg also likely to sharply decline in the next year or so and has negative value for his cap hit and term remaining
especially for one of the best 28 year old power forwards in the league
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I couldn't find empty net goal stats by player, but the Habs as a team last season only scored 3 EN goals. I watched almost every Canadiens game, and can only recall Max getting one of these.
Any other stats you'd like to make up for us to refute?
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If we trade Z our top three centers become Nielsen, Larkin, and Sheahan. Hell, we don't even know if Larkin can handle a full-time center job yet. Value-wise, yes Pacio holds lots more. But we don't need to get rid of our captain and 1C for another winger, especially one that will either command a huge raise or bolt in two years.
Yes. Easily. Because I'm actually paying attention to the state of the Wings team. It's not complicated and it has nothing to do with 'respect' for Pacioretty.
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It was all game winning goals against bottom 10 teams. Not even worth 1 goal scored against the Pens in a 5-1 lost
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In the last 5 years Patch is 2nd for empty net goals. He has 13 empty net goals in the last 5 years. Blake Wheeler is 1st with 16. Brand Marchand, Hossa, Turris and Colgliano are 3rd with 12. Tavares, Staal and Joe Thornton are 7th with 11. Backes and Patrick Kane 10th with 10. Crosby, Nash and Couture come at 12th with 9.
Those are all ****** players
If you remove Patch empty net goals (but keep other players empty net goals) Patch comes at 11th for goals in the last 5 years with 143. If you remove the empty net goals to all players Patch comes at 5th in the last 5 years with 143 goals. Here's the top 5 with empty net goals removed for the last 5 years.
Ovy : 212 goals
Pavelski : 154 goals
Crosby : 150 goals
Kane : 149 goals
Patch : 143 goals
Somehow Patch is the only crappy player worth nothing in the list
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In the last 5 years Patch is 2nd for empty net goals. He has 13 empty net goals in the last 5 years. Blake Wheeler is 1st with 16. Brand Marchand, Hossa, Turris and Colgliano are 3rd with 12. Tavares, Staal and Joe Thornton are 7th with 11. Backes and Patrick Kane 10th with 10. Crosby, Nash and Couture come at 12th with 9.
Those are all ****** players
If you remove Patch empty net goals (but keep other players empty net goals) Patch comes at 11th for goals in the last 5 years with 143.
Im not even sure why someone would look at ENG as a negative stat. If theres an empty net, it generally means your coach trusts you in a 6 on 5 situation. That speaks to a players worth in and of itself.
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For those interested here's the top 5 in game winning goals for the last 5 years
Ovy : 40 goals
Patch : 34 goals
Carter : 33 goals
Pavelski : 30 goals
Marchand : 29 goals
Top 10 for 1st goal of the game
Ovy : 43 times 1st goal of the game
Marchand : 36 times
Toews : 33 times
Perry : 32 times
Crosby/Kane : 31 times
Parise : 30 times
Jagr/Pavelski/Patch : 29 times
Even strength goals last 5 years
Ovy : 118 goals
Patch : 113 goals
Crosby : 111 goals
Kane : 111 goals
Perry : 110 goals
Patch in the last 5 years is tied 19th for pk goals. Tied 20th for PP goals.
Ovy : 40 goals
Patch : 34 goals
Carter : 33 goals
Pavelski : 30 goals
Marchand : 29 goals
Top 10 for 1st goal of the game
Ovy : 43 times 1st goal of the game
Marchand : 36 times
Toews : 33 times
Perry : 32 times
Crosby/Kane : 31 times
Parise : 30 times
Jagr/Pavelski/Patch : 29 times
Even strength goals last 5 years
Ovy : 118 goals
Patch : 113 goals
Crosby : 111 goals
Kane : 111 goals
Perry : 110 goals
Patch in the last 5 years is tied 19th for pk goals. Tied 20th for PP goals.
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