Player Discussion Max Comtois

[AngelDuck]

They obviously don't care as much about the 9 games as we do, Murray said as much.

I am not as confident in BM's ability to manage the next expansion draft correctly after the last one

 

[Ducks DVM]

His first mistake then.

Rakell was healthy, Cogliano was healthy, and Ritchie was only a matter of time getting him signed. .

Healthy at Right wing is Perry, Kase, and Silfverberg. Aberg, Terry, Roy, Sherwood, and quite a few others are also competing there.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

The 10-game mark is important as far as a potential expansion draft.

I thought it was the 11th game for the potential expansion draft and 10th game mark for the burning off of one year of the ELC?

 

[MMC]

Rakell was healthy, Cogliano was healthy, and Ritchie was only a matter of time getting him signed. .

Healthy at Right wing is Perry, Kase, and Silfverberg. Aberg, Terry, Roy, Sherwood, and quite a few others are also competing there.

 

[kroypuck]

If our management staff does one thing pretty good it's drafting and developing. I don't know why anyone would be that upset they sent him down as opposed to playing with this garbage right now. Adding him to the lineup really doesn't do much in the long run and potentially harms his full development. This team is not a team in contention and I don't see how they will be this year, so I don't mind seeing him get to play a ton in juniors and in the WJC.

Someone also made a point that we may be trying to stagger contacts. Lou Lamoriello did this in Toronto and it's definitely interesting to think about.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Also Id love to see those who predicted aberg would make such an impression as to have him play his offwing to keep him in the top six. If I remember correctly everyone on this board wanted him off the planet after game one. That would have been quite the call.

Even though he's on the fourth line right now, Ritchie impressing probably played a factor, along with Terry lighting the AHL on fire and probably needing another shot soon. Just too many wingers that are arguably/probably above him.

Wouldn't be surprised if they did it on purpose, if the expansion draft is in 2020 it won't matter(won't matter a ton regardless) and I think theres definitely a benefit to having a guy burn that year early. I think they might've done the same with Lundestrom and even Ritchie a few years back as well.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

If our management staff does one thing pretty good it's drafting and developing. I don't know why anyone would be that upset they sent him down as opposed to playing with this garbage right now. Adding him to the lineup really doesn't do much in the long run and potentially harms his full development. This team is not a team in contention and I don't see how they will be this year, so I don't mind seeing him get to play a ton in juniors and in the WJC.

Someone also made a point that we may be trying to stagger contacts. Lou Lamoriello did this in Toronto and it's definitely interesting to think about.

I think this is the opposite though, as now Steel, Comtois, Jones, Mahura and Lundestrom all have their ELCs expire at the same time. Maybe theres some thought behind that(a lot of other contracts expire that year), but it isnt about staggering them.

 

[Ducks DVM]

If our management staff does one thing pretty good it's drafting and developing. I don't know why anyone would be that upset they sent him down as opposed to playing with this garbage right now. Adding him to the lineup really doesn't do much in the long run and potentially harms his full development. This team is not a team in contention and I don't see how they will be this year, so I don't mind seeing him get to play a ton in juniors and in the WJC.

Someone also made a point that we may be trying to stagger contacts. Lou Lamoriello did this in Toronto and it's definitely interesting to think about.

I don’t think people have an issue sending him down. People have an issue with wasting a year of his ELC. It removes a year of team control at a fixed price, and more importantly might expose him to an expansion draft at a time when we are already going to have issues protecting all the good players/prospects we have. It would make more sense if he was actually going to be a major contributor this year. As is...it comes across as poor management.

 

[Static]

I think my issue with these complaints are what I know would have happened had he been sent down while being our leading scorer. The same people here lamenting this decision would have bemoaned that one.

 

[ADHB]

I think my issue with these complaints are what I know would have happened had he been sent down while being our leading scorer. The same people here lamenting this decision would have bemoaned that one.

There may have been some complaints, but the majority of fans I hope would have seen that outside of a few nice goals, he had been pretty ineffective for most of those 9 games. And with all the injured players coming back, the decision would have made sense... especially with how poor the team was doing at the time. Him being in the lineup versus not being in the lineup wasn’t going to change anything. Same goes for Lundestrom.

 

[Ducks DVM]

I think my issue with these complaints are what I know would have happened had he been sent down while being our leading scorer. The same people here lamenting this decision would have bemoaned that one.

I’m nit lamenting sending him, and I have posts saying I thought his play had fallen off. I lament the short-sightedness of wasting a year of his eligibility. Anyone thinking he was playing well just because he was scoring goals was ignoring a lot of his erratic play when he wasn’t scoring.

 

[alcolol]

 

[Static]

I guess that means the posters on HF in fact do not know more than the people running the team.

 

[Static]

I’m nit lamenting sending him, and I have posts saying I thought his play had fallen off. I lament the short-sightedness of wasting a year of his eligibility. Anyone thinking he was playing well just because he was scoring goals was ignoring a lot of his erratic play when he wasn’t scoring.

I think I just disagree that it was shortsighted, but that's just a difference of opinion. That's fine if you think he should have been down regardless of the injury, my problem was just with the 'told you so' hindsight crowd.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

I guess that means the posters on HF in fact do not know more than the people running the team.

Makes me wonder if he was even injured, they might've known exactly what they were doing with this one.

 

[DavidBL]

Has MC been confirmed to be going back to Jr? I still don't see any updates.

 

[duxfan1101]

Has MC been confirmed to be going back to Jr? I still don't see any updates.

Here's an announcement from his junior team

 

[Ducks DVM]

I think I just disagree that it was shortsighted, but that's just a difference of opinion. That's fine if you think he should have been down regardless of the injury, my problem was just with the 'told you so' hindsight crowd.

If we sneak in by 4 points, it will have been worth it. Otherwise, I think it’s was a waste. I can see the other side though, and that tweet makes it much less of an issue. It’s still going to cost $$ earlier though.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I thought it was the 11th game for the potential expansion draft and 10th game mark for the burning off of one year of the ELC?

I thought that's what Bob said in a pre-game interview earlier this season. = ) (And I reiterated before the tweet.)

 

[ADHB]

If we sneak in by 4 points, it will have been worth it. Otherwise, I think it’s was a waste. I can see the other side though, and that tweet makes it much less of an issue. It’s still going to cost $$ earlier though.

You're probably right, but this could also work the other way just as easily. When his ELC is over, he will now have one "nothing" year on his record out of 3, and his next contract ends up being cheaper than it would have been otherwise. Whereas if his ELC slid, he might end up with 3 productive seasons instead of 2 going into negotiations. Much more for his agent to work with in that case.

 

[paine]

A player must dress for 40 games in a season to accrue a season for free agency purposes.

Seattle expansion draft will be in 2020 or 2021.

1st & 2nd year pros aren’t eligible.

Max Comtois needed to play 11 games this season to count as a pro season.

He won’t be eligible.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

You're probably right, but this could also work the other way just as easily. When his ELC is over, he will now have one "nothing" year on his record out of 3, and his next contract ends up being cheaper than it would have been otherwise. Whereas if his ELC slid, he might end up with 3 productive seasons instead of 2 going into negotiations. Much more for his agent to work with in that case.

It's really difficult to predict and can go a number of ways. Like with Ritchie, it's really starting to look like burning that year was a good move and allowed BM to lock him up cheaply, but on the flip side, could you imagine if they would've done that with Rakell and his ELC expired a year earlier? He would've been probably a decent amount cheaper for a couple years and then would've likely gotten a much better deal. Or, what if Comtois really is this good and is gonna get a decent deal off his ELC regardless?

I dont think theres a wrong opinion on this, you can really argue it from any angle.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Here's an announcement from his junior team

Interesting, so we get to see him with Veleno? Should be fun.

 

[bumperkisser]

I like this move of moving him back down. I don't mind burning a year at all as then he'll only have 2 years of pro experience to negotiate with.

 

[Duck Off]

I think my issue with these complaints are what I know would have happened had he been sent down while being our leading scorer. The same people here lamenting this decision would have bemoaned that one.

I think this is spot on. For some, it's impossible to satisfy and often hindsight is used way too often around here. I don't blame him for how he handled Comtois, but I absolutely think it should have been a no brainer that both Lundestrom and Comtois should not hit the 9 game mark. There's a balance in the season and long term. Clearly Murray is thinking short term out of fear for his job, but IMO, to have both players hit the 9 game mark is ridiculous. I realize Lundestrom was one of the better rookies, but he still should have been sent back without much hesitation. Especially since Comtois was going to hit the 9 game mark.