Rumor: Matthews and Leafs discussing contract (mod post #605)

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Garbageyuk

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Why don’t you tell me why Matthews would make more than McDavid and be specific. You say his agent wants to get more money but that’s not how negotiating works, you need to show why you’re worth it.

So put up or shut up, what’s your pitch for Matthews making more than McDavid?
I already covered this a few pages back. You can go read it.
 

leaffaninvancouver

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I already covered this a few pages back. You can go read it.

None of what you mentioned deals with fact, even a novice negotiator would immediately counter with nearest comparables. You said 13.5 million, tell me why Matthews is worth 1 million more. At his age McDavid had a hart trophy, what has Mathews done to justify that salary?

You also said comparables don’t matter and that’s frankly wrong. Comparables are extremely important when negotiating contracts.

Have you ever had to negotiate a contract with anyone? I’ve had to.
 

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Knock off the bickering and off topic crap please. I really don't want to close this thread but we're getting there.
Wouldn't it make more sense to just remove the parties that are just instigating and looking for trouble rather than close a thread where actual discussion could be attempted if it weren't for the ones looking for a response to their antics?
 

Garbageyuk

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McDavid does not even make the playoffs.

Matthews will sign $11M @ 8 years.
Why would he get paid the same as a 27 year old? This contract will buy up almost his entire prime years. Tavares is nearing the end of his prime. Matthews will likely become better than Tavares ever was at some point during the contract as well. It makes no sense from Matthews' perspective.
 
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Garbageyuk

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None of what you mentioned deals with fact, even a novice negotiator would immediately counter with nearest comparables. You said 13.5 million, tell me why Matthews is worth 1 million more. At his age McDavid had a hart trophy, what has Mathews done to justify that salary?

You also said comparables don’t matter and that’s frankly wrong. Comparables are extremely important when negotiating contracts.

Have you ever had to negotiate a contract with anyone? I’ve had to.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you've never negotiated a contract with a high profile professional athlete, so that statement means nothing. And yes, I covered it, and gave my reasoning as to why.
 

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Wouldn't it make more sense to just remove the parties that are just instigating and looking for trouble rather than close a thread where actual discussion could be attempted if it weren't for the ones looking for a response to their antics?
We like to try general written warnings first.
 

leaffaninvancouver

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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you've never negotiated a contract with a high profile professional athlete, so that statement means nothing. And yes, I covered it, and gave my reasoning as to why.

So you have nothing, well that was obvious as you struggle to understand even the basic concept of RFA vs UFA’s and their inherent value.

You’re out of your depth.
 
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