Matthew Tkachuk vs Leon Draisaitl

[Skolman]

tkachuk is better for what it's worth. the stat watchers will choose drai though because they lack basic player examining skills

Hahahaha nice try "guru"

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

I like Tkachuk but this isn't fair to him, its Draisaitl not even close.

 

[I am not exposed]

Tkachuk

 

[McRpro]

Drai easily. The numbers suggest the same and this lobsided poll suggest the same. Lock 'er up.

 

[Volica]

I'd keep Tkachuk on the Flames, versus having Draisaitl.
If I could get McDavid as well, then I'll take Leon. Outside of a dozen games, Leon hasn't shown much of the ability to actually play on his own line. In addition to that, outside of playing with Hall or McDavid, he actually is a negative impact player for the most part.

That being said, 50 & 100 is a big deal. It takes skill to play with skill. I'd say Leon for most teams.

 

[hockeyguru]

Hahahaha nice try "guru"

thanks kid

 

[hockeyguru]

How can you be a “guru” yet completely new to the sport?

how can you not be a guru yet completely not new to the sport?

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Player A (5v5):

Rel CF%: 4.49
Rel FF%: 3.84
Rel SF%: 4.40
Rel SCF%: 4.11
Rel HDCF%: 1.60
Goals/60: 0.94
Primary Assists/60: 0.83
Points/60: 2.27
Shots/60: 7.65
SH%: 12.32%
iSCF/60: 7.53
iHDCF/60: 4.32
ixGF/60: 0.76
Penalties drawn/60: 1.22
Giveaways/60: 2.77
Takeaways/60: 2.05
Hits/60: 5.65



Player B (5v5):

Rel CF%: 0.42
Rel FF%: -0.12
Rel SF%: -0.24
Rel SCF%: 1.71
Rel HDCF%: -2.17
Goals/60: 1.22
Primary Assists/60: 0.74
Points/60: 2.57
Shots/60: 6.1
SH%: 20.00%
iSCF/60: 6.57
iHDCF/60: 2.74
ixGF/60: 0.57
Penalties drawn/60: 0.91
Giveaways/60: 3.66
Takeaways/60: 2.31
Hits/60: 2.35

Player A is Matthew Tkachuk, who primarily plays with Mikael Backlund and Michael Frolik.

Player B is Leon Draisaitl, who primarily plays with the best player in the NHL.

Tkachuk is a dominant player (both individually and relative to his teammates) on a great team and primarily plays the shutdown role. Still, he comes out well on top in the huge majority of important categories.

Draisaitl is a meh 5v5 player on a very bad team who relied on an incredibly unsustainable shooting percentage despite playing with the best player in the NHL and still barely outproduced Tkachuk.

Barely outproduced tkachuk?

He outproduced him by 28 points.

 

[snipes]

Barely outproduced tkachuk?

He outproduced him by 28 points.

“Barely”

 

[Tobias Kahun]

“Barely”

USA barely has more people than Canada.

 

[nturn06]

Yes, gifted.

Leon doesn’t lead the league in time on ice for forwards if he were on any other team in the NHL - and certainly wouldn’t play that much on a playoff team. That’s not a knock on him as a player.. The top three forwards in Edmonton are relied upon far too heavily. It’s not his fault Edmonton had literally zero depth last year.

OK, so what you are saying is that his gift is playing on a very weak team, and somehow we should hold that against him....

 

[Joseppi]

Well this doesn't seem very fair...

 

[HighLifeMan]

OK, so what you are saying is that his gift is playing on a very weak team, and somehow we should hold that against him....

That's not what I am saying at all - I have never once held anything against Draisaitl. I called him an elite player, and if you noticed actually voted for him. All I was saying is that the discrepancy between these two players is minimal and that the amount of minutes and opportunity that Leon received last year (along with his 21.6 shooting percentage) makes it appear that he is a vastly superior player that is in a completely different tier than Tkachuk. I don't think that's the case. They are closer than the statistics would lead you to believe - with of course the edge going to Draisaitl as he is coming off a 50/55 season. Draisaitl has been put into a very unique and extremely fortunate situation for himself personally and to his credit has taken full advantage of it - that's not a knock, it's a fact.

 

[spiny norman]

Lopsided result.