Player Discussion Matt Grzelcyk

[BBB24]

Coyle isn't a star but he's solid player.

Who would I take out for Gryz? Easy. Kevan Miller. And that's no knock on Miller, but a testament to how well Gryz has played this year.

Sure let’s take a little more grit off the back end, it is not soft enough yet

 

[Coach Parker]

Update?

 

[bob27]

Mildly interesting Grzelcyk stat of the day: he's been literally the best defenceman in the entire league at gaining/denying zone entries in 2018/19.

 

[Fopppa]

Mildly interesting Grzelcyk stat of the day: he's been literally the best defenceman in the entire league at gaining/denying zone entries in 2018/19.

Not saying it's not interesting or that the conclusion is wrong, but why are there only 14 teams' D-men on the chart?

 

[bob27]

Not sure. Possibly only those teams have their zone entries/exits tracked, or maybe adding all teams would clutter the chart so much it'd be unreadable. Regardless, when you are an NHL defenceman doing some part of your job at a comparable level to Erik Karlsson, you are probably doing a fine job.

 

[DKH]

Mildly interesting Grzelcyk stat of the day: he's been literally the best defenceman in the entire league at gaining/denying zone entries in 2018/19.

Very interesting

 

[bwunderlich]

i looked at it and said, was he traded to Buffalo?

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

it was surreal not seeing him on the ice last night. feels like lately he's been on the ice every other shift.

still not totally on board with trading him.

 

[Dr Hook]

it was surreal not seeing him on the ice last night. feels like lately he's been on the ice every other shift.

still not totally on board with trading him.

No and he is a better defenseman than John Moore. No way he needs to sit for Moore ever again. Oh except that Moore is 6'2 and Gryz isn't.

 

[Estlin]

No and he is a better defenseman than John Moore. No way he needs to sit for Moore ever again. Oh except that Moore is 6'2 and Gryz isn't.

I'd prefer to see Miller sit and have both Grzelcyk and Moore play regularly.

 

[BruinDust]

I'd prefer to see Miller sit and have both Grzelcyk and Moore play regularly.

At the very least take a look at who they are playing and judge it accordingly.

For example, I don't want to see Miller vs. Toronto again. Small, speedy forward group, get the better skaters in there (Gryz or Moore).

Conversely, against a larger heavier team like the Capitals, I'd be inclined to use Moore and Miller as they are bigger and stronger. Or at least Gryz and Miller.

 

[Chief Nine]

At the very least take a look at who they are playing and judge it accordingly.

For example, I don't want to see Miller vs. Toronto again. Small, speedy forward group, get the better skaters in there (Gryz or Moore).

Conversely, against a larger heavier team like the Capitals, I'd be inclined to use Moore and Miller as they are bigger and stronger. Or at least Gryz and Miller.

Yeah, I would think that would be the point of having 8 NHL D and options like they have, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes?

 

[Over the volcano]

After watching the game last night makes you realize how good Grzleyck is. He’s just quicker on his skates and in his head than half of the D.

I know they need some scoring up front - but this kid is a gem and it’d be tough to see him go.

 

[Dr Hook]

After watching the game last night makes you realize how good Grzleyck is. He’s just quicker on his skates and in his head than half of the D.

I know they need some scoring up front - but this kid is a gem and it’d be tough to see him go.

Agreed. The team missed him. too much is made of his size. For every instance he gets outmatched physically, and if we're honest and watching, it doesn't happen very often, there a 3 or 4 plays he makes that the bigger option (Moore, Miller, Carlo, etc.) can't or don't pull off. It's well worth the trade-off.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

After watching the game last night makes you realize how good Grzleyck is. He’s just quicker on his skates and in his head than half of the D.

I know they need some scoring up front - but this kid is a gem and it’d be tough to see him go.

I don't know why we have to trade him its not like him or Moore are going to die or forget how to skate because one is #7 when everyone is healthy.

After next year we are losing Krug to free agency, Chara one way or another this might be his last year, and likely one of Moore/Grizz to Vegas we will probably not expose a better forward to them than those 2.

Why trade someone? Thats 3 LDs we will lose to free agency, age, and expansion.

 

[Tbaybruin]

I don't know why we have to trade him its not like him or Moore are going to die or forget how to skate because one is #7 when everyone is healthy.

After next year we are losing Krug to free agency, Chara one way or another this might be his last year, and likely one of Moore/Grizz to Vegas we will probably not expose a better forward to them than those 2.

Why trade someone? Thats 3 LDs we will lose to free agency, age, and expansion.

Great post. If Grizz plays instead of Chara I say we win. Any one who watches the games can’t say Moore is better than Grizz, no way bigger yes.

 

[The don godfather]

I think bye bye grez trade bait.

 

[Coach Parker]

Yeah, since the start of OT against the Jets he hasn't played. I wonder if a trade is closer than we think.

 

[22Brad Park]

I'd prefer to see Miller sit and have both Grzelcyk and Moore play regularly.

Cassidy will never sit him.

 

[cat400]

The Grzelcyk's debate brings back memories of old.

In the 1960's the Bruins had a bunch of young defencemen including Ted Green, Ed Westfall, Dallas Smith and Pat Stapleton whom they hoped to lead them out of the wilderness.

Westfall as a RW, Smith and Green went on to Stanley Cup success with the Bruins.

Stapleton at 5 ft. 8 in. was traded off after a full season and a bit with the Bruins and eventually ended up with the Black Hawks where he had quite the productive career along with being a member of the historic 1972 Summit Series.

 

[wintersej]

I just love him as a player, one of the best guys in center ice in all the league. I think the writing is on the wall, and they have the depth in the org to do it... just bummed.

 

[Dueling Banjos]

I just love him as a player, one of the best guys in center ice in all the league. I think the writing is on the wall, and they have the depth in the org to do it... just bummed.

One of my fav skaters to watch, great style.

I used to like observing Colin Miller's skating too.

 

[Over the volcano]

Cassidy will never sit him.

Sure he will, and he has, but Miller brings a whole lot to the back end. Might be the most underrated player on the team.

One of my fav skaters to watch, great style.

I used to like observing Colin Miller's skating too.

Yeah- biggest difference is that Grzelyck is always dialed right in, CMiller would go on holiday from time to time.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Sure he will, and he has, but Miller brings a whole lot to the back end. Might be the most underrated player on the team.

Respectfully disagree, K.M. Brings nothing but the occasional big hit or a fight. He skates himself into the boards in the Ozone and constantly screens the Bruins goaltender.

Bring up Clifton trade KM to one of the California teams . DO NOT TRADE GRIZZ it will be a major mistake

 

[whitetape]

The three best defensive defensemen right now are Carlo, Miller/Chara, and Grez/McAvoy. The best at stoking the offense are Krug, McAvoy and Grez. Grez is the only common denominator there. And Moore isn't on either list. But he still brings more than Kampfer.

I say try Moore at wing one of these games, keep Kampfer as a decent fill-in. And don't trade Vaakanainen, BTW.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Grzelcyk, leads the team in most important...….. plus/minus, of course.

Though leading your team with a +8 is kind of embarrassing to the team.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Chara and Miller should sit. Play Vaak and Grzelcyk. Miller fights on average once every 30 games, he’s no Mcquaid.