Player Discussion Matt Grzelcyk

UncleRico

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Whoever thinks Grzelcyk is a top pair defenceman is desilusional and better be ready for a rude awakaing. He will get eaten alive if he's to be the solution to play a heavy minutes against the top lines.

I don’t think he’s a top pair defensemen, I femininely think he’s a 2nd pair, especially with a guy like Carlo on the other side.
 
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McAvoy 4.9
Gryz 3.68
Carlo 2.85
Miller 1.2
Clifton 1
Lauzon .85
Zboril .75

Pretty solid group of 7 there for 15Mill. Gryz, Lauzon and Zboril are really going to have to step up there games if we don’t add another top LH D. I think it’s possible for them all to do that though.

Maybe Gryz with McAvoy and then Lauzon-Carlo is your shut down pair. Then big important minutes at the end of a close game you move Carlo to the off side with McAvoy. Then Zboril-Miller can be a solid third pair with a mean streak and Clifton subbing in.
 
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Pretty limited in terms of minutes (201 last year), but when they were on the ice together, Grzelcyk and McAvoy was a dominant pairing.

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Good stuff

always nice when eyes and mind are supported by data

they get puck it’s out of zone and they have nothing to defend
 

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McAvoy 4.9
Gryz 3.68
Carlo 2.85
Miller 1.2
Clifton 1
Lauzon .85
Zboril .75

Pretty solid group of 7 there for 15Mill. Gryz, Lauzon and Zboril are really going to have to step up there games if we don’t add another top LH D. I think it’s possible for them all to do that though.

Maybe Gryz with McAvoy and then Lauzon-Carlo is your shut down pair. Then big important minutes at the end of a close game you move Carlo to the off side with McAvoy. Then Zboril-Miller can be a solid third pair with a mean streak and Clifton subbing in.
Pretty solid group? Sure for the AHL. That might be the weakest Bruins D ever.
 

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McAvoy 4.9
Gryz 3.68
Carlo 2.85
Miller 1.2
Clifton 1
Lauzon .85
Zboril .75

Pretty solid group of 7 there for 15Mill. Gryz, Lauzon and Zboril are really going to have to step up there games if we don’t add another top LH D. I think it’s possible for them all to do that though.

Maybe Gryz with McAvoy and then Lauzon-Carlo is your shut down pair. Then big important minutes at the end of a close game you move Carlo to the off side with McAvoy. Then Zboril-Miller can be a solid third pair with a mean streak and Clifton subbing in.

There simply isn't enough experience there to be confident with that line-up. The bottom 3 have a grand total of 87 regular seasons games played combined. That's huge gamble that could work out but the odds are stacked against it.
 

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There simply isn't enough experience there to be confident with that line-up. The bottom 3 have a grand total of 87 regular seasons games played combined. That's huge gamble that could work out but the odds are stacked against it.
That’s why I think it makes sense to resign Chara, it would give them a little stability and someone that can play harder minutes.
 
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Good deal for the player and the team
Have to admit I'm surprised Debrusk didn't seek arbitration , maybe they're in the ballpark negotiations wise?
 

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If Boston goes into the season with this defensive core, John Moore would be the only playing that didn’t make their NHL debut with the Bruins.

Chara if re-signed also but as of right now....

McAvoy = drafted
Gezelcyk = drafted
Carlo = drafted
Lauzon = drafted
Zboril = drafted
Vaakanainen = drafted

They could ice an all drafted defensive core.

Miller = UDFA signing by Boston

Clifton = Drafted by Arizona, NHL debut for Boston. Signed and develop by Bruins.

Kampfer = drafted by Anaheim, traded for and developed by Boston. NHL debut here in Boston. Left and returned.
 

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I remember the days our ahl insiders told us grez would never have enough nhl offense to qb a pp....

I guess we will now find out if they were correct?

If he can become legitimate on the pp... contract is value

But... if he remains a 20 point undersized 18 min a game defender that isnt great on the pk, the contract might bite

Perhaps a 1-2 year 'prove it' deal would have been smarter?

I kind of am hoping to see vaakainen, zboril, lauzon, ahcan as our left side in 2 years

And if mcavoy, carlo are still here... its a good blend of size/mobility

Will grez become the vet 7th dman at nearly 4 mill to support these stud kids? I dont know

This is an entirely home grown group though as just said... and its a group im stoked over

Great job drafting and developing

Almost eases my pain not landing oel
 
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If Boston goes into the season with this defensive core, John Moore would be the only playing that didn’t make their NHL debut with the Bruins.

Chara if re-signed also but as of right now....

McAvoy = drafted
Gezelcyk = drafted
Carlo = drafted
Lauzon = drafted
Zboril = drafted
Vaakanainen = drafted

They could ice an all drafted defensive core.

Miller = UDFA signing by Boston

Clifton = Drafted by Arizona, NHL debut for Boston. Signed and develop by Bruins.

Kampfer = drafted by Anaheim, traded for and developed by Boston. NHL debut here in Boston. Left and returned.

Got to give Boston credit for selecting and building a strong D core...A strength of the bruins. That's why I'm willing to give their recent 2nd round draft selection some time.
 
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As of right now, the Bruins only have three defensemen that meet the criteria of "must expose" one defenseman that has played the minimum amount of games, McAvoy, Carlo and Gryz.

We don't know what the season is going to look like and I would imagine that teams are going to want to change the 40/70 rule, but how do you change the deal with Seattle that paid $650 million?

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As of right now, the Bruins only have three defensemen that meet the criteria of "must expose" one defenseman that has played the minimum amount of games, McAvoy, Carlo and Gryz.

We don't know what the season is going to look like and I would imagine that teams are going to want to change the 40/70 rule, but how do you change the deal with Seattle that paid $650 million?

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I'd just expose Gryz anyways. He didn't get a NMC (based on Cap Friendly). And if either of Zboril or Lauzon step up this season to be legit Top 4 D-men, I'd probably want to protect that guy, rather than Gryz. The only way I protect Gryz is if both Lauzon and Zboril both flame out next year.

And say both Lauzon and Zboril emerge as regular everyday NHL D-men, I'm not even sure Seattle takes Gryz over whichever of the two is left exposed. They might want to go with the younger and cheaper guy.

Sweeney seems to be hedging his bet on Lauzon and Zboril cracking this roster and being decent contributors next year. Clifton too to a lesser degree as the right-side is deeper.
 

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McAvoy 4.9
Gryz 3.68
Carlo 2.85
Miller 1.2
Clifton 1
Lauzon .85
Zboril .75

Pretty solid group of 7 there for 15Mill. Gryz, Lauzon and Zboril are really going to have to step up there games if we don’t add another top LH D. I think it’s possible for them all to do that though.

Maybe Gryz with McAvoy and then Lauzon-Carlo is your shut down pair. Then big important minutes at the end of a close game you move Carlo to the off side with McAvoy. Then Zboril-Miller can be a solid third pair with a mean streak and Clifton subbing in.
While I think that Gryz's contract is a little rich, it does send an important message to the young defenseman behind him: Compete and work hard and you will be rewarded. Hard to understate the value of this for players with a lot to prove.
 

neelynugs

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solid contract for a solid 2nd pairing defenseman. he can pair up with just about anyone at
any time. like the high-end utility guy in baseball. i'm not a huge fan of gryz as the top unit
PP guy, but he's passable there.
 
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You can't deny this has been and will be an issue during the playoffs. Well you can but you'd be wrong...

It can be an issue sure, I don't think anyone is saying that it isn't, but on the flip side, it just as big an issue to me to have a big, slow guy back there that cannot get the puck quickly on a dump in and gets trapped. Sure he can hold off the forechecker better, but it still creates problems. Unless we are talking about the elite of the elite that are big, fast, and highly skilled with the puck, then there is always going to be a tradeoff there. The "but he's small" crowd never seems to see the downside of the big, strong guys, and they have them.
 

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