Prospect Info: Matej Pekar, C (OHL) Barrie Colts - Drafted 2018 (94 OA) , not qualified, signed AHL deal with Hartford

Sabretooth

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On the plus side he should be able to be signed and assigned straight to Rochester if I'm not mistaken which separates him from players drafted from the CHL.
 

dotcommunism

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Because he has a clear agenda against the CHL more or less. Not with the players but more with the league and the timing of prospects. If he draft college or from Europe he has 4 years to sign them etc.
Preferring extra development time with late round picks is not even remotely a "clear agenda against the CHL"

On the plus side he should be able to be signed and assigned straight to Rochester if I'm not mistaken which separates him from players drafted from the CHL.
Yes, but that probably won't be a factor until next year.
 

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Preferring extra development time with late round picks is not even remotely a "clear agenda against the CHL"

Agree. I'm sure if Dahlin was playing for London, he's making the pick.

For the later round picks, it makes sense. It's working out for Olofsson and Ullmark.

My only question would be where does Botterill draw the cut line, if he does at all? Round 4?
 

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He was drafted out of USHL. Can he go to Rochester in 19/20?

No he’s not European only they have that luxury like Nylander did two years ago and other Europeans get that luxury not Americans and Canadians . Pekar isn’t AHL eligible for two more years. And outstanding OHL debut with Barrie I am loving this 4th Round Pick more than and more and we control him for the next 4 years unlike every other OHL player ! Unbelievable move Botterill !
 
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No he’s not European only they have that luxury like Nylander did two years ago and other Europeans get that luxury not Americans and Canadians . Pekar isn’t AHL eligible for two more years. And outstanding OHL debut with Barrie I am loving this 4th Round Pick more than and more and we control him for the next 4 years unlike every other OHL player ! Unbelievable move Botterill !
He's not?
 

Sabretooth

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No he’s not European only they have that luxury like Nylander did two years ago and other Europeans get that luxury not Americans and Canadians . Pekar isn’t AHL eligible for two more years. And outstanding OHL debut with Barrie I am loving this 4th Round Pick more than and more and we control him for the next 4 years unlike every other OHL player ! Unbelievable move Botterill !
Pretty sure this is incorrect. The rule has to do with whether a player is drafted out of the CHL. Pekar was drafted out of the USHL so even tho he is in the OHL now he should still be able to sign and report to Rochester next year theoretically.
 

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Pretty sure this is incorrect. The rule has to do with whether a player is drafted out of the CHL. Pekar was drafted out of the USHL so even tho he is in the OHL now he should still be able to sign and report to Rochester next year theoretically.

The way DC and I read the CBA, the fact that Pekar never played a game in the NC$$ means that he is treated like a CHL player and not an NC$$ player. So, it looks like he has to go back to Barrie again next season and it looks like he can't play in the AHL for the full season in 2019-20.
 

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I would think Pekar would be the same situation as Girgensons, he was drafted from the USHL and was able to go right to the AHL. Can’t see a reason why Pekar couldn’t be assigned there, just like he was assigned to Barrie. If he was drafted from the CHL it would be different, but he wasn’t.
 
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The way DC and I read the CBA, the fact that Pekar never played a game in the NC$$ means that he is treated like a CHL player and not an NC$$ player. So, it looks like he has to go back to Barrie again next season and it looks like he can't play in the AHL for the full season in 2019-20.
He wasn't drafted out of the CHL. He was drafted out of the USHL. CHL restrictions do not apply.
 

Jim Bob

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He wasn't drafted out of the CHL. He was drafted out of the USHL. CHL restrictions do not apply.

Drafted Players who Leave the Major Juniors prior to age 20.
Notwithstanding any provision of subsection (a) to the contrary, Clubs shall have additional
rights set forth in subsections (i), (ii) and (iii) below with respect to Players who either: (i) were
drafted while playing in the Major Juniors or (ii) other than college players described in Section
(c) below or Players drafted from a club outside North America described in Section (d) below,
play in the Juniors during the period of time that a Club holds their exclusive negotiating rights
and, in either case, cease to play in the Juniors and play in a league other than Juniors prior to
age 20.

He isn't a college player nor is he drafted from a club outside of North America.

College Players.
(i) If a Player drafted at age 18 or 19 is a bona fide college student at the time
of his selection in the Entry Draft, or becomes a bona fide college student
prior to the first June 1 following his selection in the Entry Draft, and
remains a bona fide college student through the graduation of his college
class, his drafting Club shall retain the exclusive right of negotiation for
his services through and including the August 15 following the graduation
of his college class. The Club need not make a Bona Fide Offer to such
Player to retain such rights.

Since he won't play college hockey prior to June 1, 2019, he won't be a college player.

If Girgensons had gone to play in the CHL as opposed to signing with the Sabres and going to Rochester, we would have a better basis for how this should play out.
 

dotcommunism

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He isn't a college player nor is he drafted from a club outside of North America.



Since he won't play college hockey prior to June 1, 2019, he won't be a college player.

If Girgensons had gone to play in the CHL as opposed to signing with the Sabres and going to Rochester, we would have a better basis for how this should play out.
The agreement that restricts CHL underagers from playing in the AHL is outside of the CBA, and is unrelated to how long a player's draft rights are held. He should be eligible for the AHL whenever.
 

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The way DC and I read the CBA, the fact that Pekar never played a game in the NC$$ means that he is treated like a CHL player and not an NC$$ player. So, it looks like he has to go back to Barrie again next season and it looks like he can't play in the AHL for the full season in 2019-20.

Girgensons played USHL , could have gone ncaa, but opted to sign and go to Rochester.

I don’t know this example in the CBA of player USHL probably goes to ncaa opts out and goes to CHL...then does CHL retain rights or can he go to AHL in draft +1 yr. he would with a late year bday turning 20 but I’m assuming is birthday isn’t there.
 

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Great break out pass by Pekar for a breakaway goal against Sudbury. And causes a little disturbance later in front of the Sudbury goal. Guy has jam.
 

Howie Hodge

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Just want to say this now since I doubt it's going to last...

Pekar is the OHL's points leader!

You jinxed him! He's now tied for second. Suzuki 1'st with 9 pts...

1C61 Suzuki, RyanBAR32798003108000000000.0501938.03.000.00
2C12 Paquette, ChristopherPBO35276210207101100000.0502244.02.330.67
3C12 Pekar, MatejBAR334754110012100000000.07114.32.331.33
4C17 Saigeon, BrandonHAM22572212007000000000.0543157.43.501.00
5LW8 Chiodo, LucasBAR342682000110000100000.0000.02.000.67
6LW41 Michnac, AlbertSAG33361001006001000000.011872.72.000.00
7RW34 Kaliyev, ArthurHAM232502110011101000000.0000.02.501.00
8C9 Keating, AustenOTT22350001005110000000.0281657.12.500.00
9C7 Angle, TylerWSR32354200006000100000.02150.01.670.67
10D2 Tucker, TylerBAR323526100040
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
 

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