Injury Report: Martinook 6-8 weeks

[GIN ANTONIC]

Isn't Slavin already wearing an A?

That's what I thought too. Give Marty's A to Aho or Pesce imo

 

[MinJaBen]

I can't ever get those four minutes back...

 

[GoldiFox]

I wonder if Martinook's issue ever got fixed with the first surgery. Of all Canes players there are only two under 48% CF% (5v5) and those are Wallmark (44.4%) and Martinook (40.3%). He was one of the top PK forwards last year but this year Martinook has been behind Aho, Staal, Haula, McGinn, and TT in PK time.

5v5 CF w/ and w/o Martinook:

With	TOI With	CF% With	CF% Without Martinook	Diff
Warren Foegele	26.8	50	55.2	5.2
Lucas Wallmark	26.2	45.45	42.9	-2.6
Petr Mrazek	20.9	55.26	64.9	9.6
James Reimer	18.4	23.53	43.8	20.3
Joel Edmundson	17.4	24	60.8	36.8
Dougie Hamilton	16.7	41.94	50.6	8.7
Jaccob Slavin	16.2	53.33	47.7	-5.6
Brett Pesce	14.6	39.13	62.5	23.4
Erik Haula	10.1	26.92	63.5	36.6
Haydn Fleury	8.7	33.33	52.4	19.1
Ryan Dzingel	6.7	31.25	62.3	31.1
Jake Gardiner	5.9	41.18	60.6	19.4

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Small sample size but Martinook appears to have been tilting the ice in the wrong direction

 

[Lempo]

I can't ever get those four minutes back...

I timestamped the video to start playing from 41 seconds' mark. If you went and watched the whole four minutes that's on you.

 

[MinJaBen]

I timestamped the video to start playing from 41 seconds' mark. If you went and watched the whole four minutes that's on you.

Yeah, that 41 seconds didn't really make or break the experience.

 

[Lempo]

"a" core muscle. All articles matter!

Well they are ripping his a now.

 

[Lempo]

Yeah, that 41 seconds didn't really make or break the experience.

I meant just the CACA part, but couldn't tell you to stop after CACA because that would really have spoiled it.

If we were nine and at the sandbox I would just have emulated the sound myself, but time and the internet has ruined the world.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Sucks to lose one of our "A"s, definitely a character and morale-boosting guy both on and off the ice. Losing his "gritty" presence definitely sucks too (need someone to help discourage and police the Tom Wilson's)...BUT the group seems to care enough to stand-up for one another at least. Svech is no pushover, Edmundson has some edge, Dzingel doesn't fight a lot but he has on occasion before, Dougie Smash, etc

 

[Identity404]

Given Martinook's personality i'd imagine he will still be very close to the locker room and still provide some leadership/cheer-leading while out.

 

[Joe McGrath]

He’s been one of the few non bright spots so far this season so I’m not shocked he was never really healthy. Guy is an absolute warrior but for Christ sake stop being a hero and get that fixed for good and don’t come back until you’re 100%. Hernias are no joke

 

[Unsustainable]

Damn. I thought he just got that fixed

 

[My Special Purpose]

I wonder if Martinook's issue ever got fixed with the first surgery. Of all Canes players there are only two under 48% CF% (5v5) and those are Wallmark (44.4%) and Martinook (40.3%). He was one of the top PK forwards last year but this year Martinook has been behind Aho, Staal, Haula, McGinn, and TT in PK time.

5v5 CF w/ and w/o Martinook:

With	TOI With	CF% With	CF% Without Martinook	Diff
Warren Foegele	26.8	50	55.2	5.2
Lucas Wallmark	26.2	45.45	42.9	-2.6
Petr Mrazek	20.9	55.26	64.9	9.6
James Reimer	18.4	23.53	43.8	20.3
Joel Edmundson	17.4	24	60.8	36.8
Dougie Hamilton	16.7	41.94	50.6	8.7
Jaccob Slavin	16.2	53.33	47.7	-5.6
Brett Pesce	14.6	39.13	62.5	23.4
Erik Haula	10.1	26.92	63.5	36.6
Haydn Fleury	8.7	33.33	52.4	19.1
Ryan Dzingel	6.7	31.25	62.3	31.1
Jake Gardiner	5.9	41.18	60.6	19.4

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Small sample size but Martinook appears to have been tilting the ice in the wrong direction

I'm guessing we knew Marty wasn't 100 percent from the start, but we were hoping he wouldn't have to be 100 percent to be effective in his role. After four games, it became clear that Marty at less than 100 percent isn't very effective. So, better to get Marty to 100 percent and have him strong for the second half that to have 75 percent Marty chasing the play for six months.

 

[Chrispy]

I'm guessing we knew Marty wasn't 100 percent from the start, but we were hoping he wouldn't have to be 100 percent to be effective in his role. After four games, it became clear that Marty at less than 100 percent isn't very effective. So, better to get Marty to 100 percent and have him strong for the second half that to have 75 percent Marty chasing the play for six months.

I'd add that having Gauthier show up in the preseason as he did makes it easier to make this decision, as they knew they have a capable forward who can play here for 6-8 weeks on either the 4th line or higher if needed due to play of others or additional injuries.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

He’s been one of the few non bright spots so far this season so I’m not shocked he was never really healthy. Guy is an absolute warrior but for Christ sake stop being a hero and get that fixed for good and don’t come back until you’re 100%. Hernias are no joke

I don't know, there's a lot of jokes out there about hernias I think.

 

[Lempo]

"Yo Mama is so fat a tornado tried to pick her up and got a hernia."

 

[Canes]

Feel bad for Martinook but eager to see what Goat can do.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Oof. Drink some scotch and heal up Marty.

I bet he still hangs around the team to keep morale up.

Yeah hopefully has the surgery right in the locker room.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Not that you like seeing a core leader go down for 6-8, but it's not like losing Staal or Aho in terms of impact. This is a huge opportunity for Gauthier. I can't imagine how pumped he is, after being disappointed by not making the opening roster. I think Necas has proven that he was the right choice for that, though.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Not that you like seeing a core leader go down for 6-8, but it's not like losing Staal or Aho in terms of impact. This is a huge opportunity for Gauthier. I can't imagine how pumped he is, after being disappointed by not making the opening roster. I think Necas has proven that he was the right choice for that, though.

Sounds like his core isn’t quite as impressive as we all thought it was.

 

[My Special Purpose]

This is a huge opportunity for Gauthier. I can't imagine how pumped he is, after being disappointed by not making the opening roster.

I think it would have been fun to call up Steve Lorentz, just to see the damage Goat could do to his apartment.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Sounds like his core isn’t quite as impressive as we all thought it was.

True but GOAT is gonna tear it up.

 

[tarheelhockey]

If there's any possible silver lining to this, swapping Martinook for Gauthier actually makes some sense from a hockey perspective. This is a move that could potentially just make our roster look different, while not actually being worse.

Gauthier may not hit as much, but he'll be in a forechecking role where his vertical speed is an asset. That means an opportunity to see him in the bottom-6 role we all talked about for him in the preseason. Should actually be pretty interesting to see the next chapter in this little saga.

the thought of getting a hernia, then getting surgery to get it fixed, and then potentially getting the hernia all over again... *shudder*

Probably the worst thing about hernias is that once the muscle wall is torn, sometimes it just never regains its strength again. There's only so much that surgery and recovery can do... a lot of athletes just can't get away from recurrences and that's all she wrote for their career. Hopefully the length of this IR assignment means they're giving him the best possible chance at a total recovery before it becomes a chronic thing.

 

[Lempo]

I think it would have been fun to call up Steve Lorentz, just to see the damage Goat could do to his apartment.

"So guys, where's Saarela... oh."

 

[MinJaBen]

I think it would have been fun to call up Steve Lorentz, just to see the damage Goat could do to his apartment.

I think the Canes would have had to convert it to one of those rentable rooms the Flyers now have for their fans.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Y’all buried the lead.

We have two RH shot forwards now.