Proposal: Martinez (retained) to the Leafs

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  1. TSN Jdog

    TSN Jdog Registered User

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    Borgman, Andreas ($925,000)
    Timashov, Dmytro ($693,333)
    2019 3rd round pick *


    * = If Leafs win 2019 Stanley Cup pick becomes 2019 2nd round pick

    :leafs

    Martinez, Alec ($2,000,000) - 50% retained


    Leafs Blueline:

    RiellyMartinez
    Gardiner Zaitsev
    DermottHainsey
     
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    Switch Borgman with Marincin/Rosen and you have a deal
     
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    Thats like saying switch the 3rd to a 7th and you have a deal
     
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    Yeap, Kings trade their D-man for a whole load of nothing...
     
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    I'm sure the Kings are in the business of giving away talent for nothing.
     
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    So... what exactly is the incentive for the Kings here? They take on dead cap and lose a top 4 dman to get, umm, nothing.
     
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    Yea sure, LA will keep $2m on the cap and give away a top 4 D-man for essentially nothing. Really well thought out proposal OP.
     
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    So be it, we’re going to need Borgmans physicality in the long run. People forget he’s Only 23
     
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    Kings already getting very little and you want to change it to nothing for a 50% retained top 4 D. :laugh:
     
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    lol
     
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    Martinez would be on the top pair? Toronto’s defense is worse than I thought.
     
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    What exactly would this do for LA?
     
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    They aren't contending a move a 31 year old defender for future assets
     
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    They just signed Kovalchuk to a 3 year deal. They might not be a cup contender but they aren’t rebuilding any time soon.
     
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    Well, offer something that they can rebuild on. Borgman is worse then Fantenberg and is not young enough and Timashov is nothing special. Start with Sandin or a first or something usefull. If you want retantion. My guess is Sandin +
     
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    Is Martinez even a top 4 guy at this point?

    It seems like the Kings have a few guys that are living off their reputation from a few years ago. When I've seen Muzzin/Martinez recently...they look a lot worse than they did 2-3 years ago.
     
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    Why would the Kings do this? Don't get me wrong, as a division rival, I'd love to see the Kings make this kind of move. But, there is literally no incentive here for the Kings to move Martinez, let lone eat half of his salary too.

    Maybe if you offer enough, they will trade you Phaneuf back.
     
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    Either guy is absolutely a top-4 dman when you play them with anyone but each other. They are toxic together. Seriously. Literally worst d-pairing in the league by several metrics, but Stevens gonna Stevens.

    Martinez is versatile, is a league leader in shot blocks, can run your PP and PK, skate the puck out of trouble himself. If anything he's underrated, he's just being completely misused and being trotted out on his backhand with a partner with 0 chemistry by the worst coach in the league who is mismanaging 90% of the roster.
     
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    Dam strate boning with no Vaseline . Martinez is an underrated top 4 dman In the league and you want us to retain 50% for a bunch of dime a dozen players lmao. Get out of here
     
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    Makes no sense for LAK. Terrible.
     
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    McGarnagle Yes.

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    terrible for LA.

    Martinez lead the league in shot blocks last year but unlike a guy like Russel he is useful at both ends of the ice. He is very underrated and in no way would LA do this without retention and without a condition on the pick. I could see him moved if LA falls out of playoff contention but it would be for more than this pile of crap.
     
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    The deal is a poop sandwich for LA as is and you want to downgrade it more. Yea LA would not do to OP. Deals have to help both sides and this does NOTHING for one side.
     
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    Clueless.
     
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    Funny they both play important top 4 minutes on one of the best defensive teams in the league. You need to watch them more than once or twice a season.
     
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