Martin Havlat's Potential

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RickyF said:
Much like Hemsky, I would like to know what is Martin's full potential. I'm amazed that at only 22 years old, he's nearly a PPG player.

Well if he were to reach his FULL potential, he could turn out to be a perenial all-star and selke winner. For a young player he really understands the importance of the defensive aspect of the game and is well rounded. He is not and will not become an ultra-dominant front line offensive sniper (as say Hossa will be), but he can produce and be very reliable in all facets of the game.

Say a game similar to Lehtinen's but with a flashier offensive output like that of Satan's during the last couple of years.
 

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Well if he were to reach his FULL potential, he could turn out to be a perenial all-star and selke winner. For a young player he really understands the importance of the defensive aspect of the game and is well rounded. He is not and will not become an ultra-dominant front line offensive sniper (as say Hossa will be), but he can produce and be very reliable in all facets of the game.

Say a game similar to Lehtinen's but with a flashier offensive output like that of Satan's during the last couple of years.

I thought he was not great on d and that is what the coaches are trying to teach him while he is young and he is improving. I thought his greatness was in his breathtaking moves and offensive arsenal.
 

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I thought he was not great on d and that is what the coaches are trying to teach him while he is young and he is improving. I thought his greatness was in his breathtaking moves and offensive arsenal.

Thats the Havlat I know. Havlat has been quoted as to suggest that he's not/won't be a defensive-minded player and wishes the NHL would open up to let guys like him blossom. Though he's been trained by the coaching staff to cover his ass, he will always be an offensive/finesse specialist. He has the wheels to backcheck and does so competently when he tries, but Havlat is sometimes prone to float around looking for the long outlet pass. A defensive breakdown for Havlat would simply be where he's too lazy to cover his man, instead caught looking for a high-risk turnover. That said, some of his 1 on 1 moves are spectacular, as Havlat owns the softest hands on the team, save for Spezza. He is not a shooter and scores most of his goals from within the mayors office. He has the ability to dangle the puck and go in, or piece together passes that no one in the building could have seen. Would expect Havlat to be a perenial 75'ish point player, with hamstring injuries a 65'ish point player. Upside would be one of the leagues best playmakers at 90+ points.
 

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Havlat's defensive game is way overrated. Prior to last season, he was considered a liability, all of a sudden he puts up a +20 rating and people consider him an elite defensive forward when he really isn't. He is no longer a liability in his own zone, but he's merely average. His best defensive asset is his forecheckin ability, which is elite, he is also pretty good at causing turnovers, but he can be lazy and is prone to leaving his man unattended.

Offensively, he'll be a PPG player over his career, and I think he'll be a player with alot of fans because of his dazzling moves. Somebody every fan loves to watch.
 

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Thats the Havlat I know. Havlat has been quoted as to suggest that he's not/won't be a defensive-minded player and wishes the NHL would open up to let guys like him blossom. Though he's been trained by the coaching staff to cover his ass, he will always be an offensive/finesse specialist. He has the wheels to backcheck and does so competently when he tries, but Havlat is sometimes prone to float around looking for the long outlet pass. A defensive breakdown for Havlat would simply be where he's too lazy to cover his man, instead caught looking for a high-risk turnover. That said, some of his 1 on 1 moves are spectacular, as Havlat owns the softest hands on the team, save for Spezza. He is not a shooter and scores most of his goals from within the mayors office. He has the ability to dangle the puck and go in, or piece together passes that no one in the building could have seen. Would expect Havlat to be a perenial 75'ish point player, with hamstring injuries a 65'ish point player. Upside would be one of the leagues best playmakers at 90+ points.

The Havlat I saw at Salt Lake in 2002 was a 2 way threat who scored in the clutch vs Canada. Last year in the playoffs I found his game to be responsible and with his speed I figure he has the potential to backcheck as well as anyone on the team. And the Sens are generally considered as a strong defensive team.
 
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