Marner vs Rantanen

[ElizaE]

The guy who leads the league in goals per game and points per game in this years playoffs:

Mikko Rantanen.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Marner. He is less reliant on the power play, has played with a lesser quality of linemates. The Colorado top line is either #1 or #2 in the league for me. Rantanen is still an elite player though, but I feel Marner gets my vote here.

Marner plays with Tavares... the linemate argument doesn't work for Marner. Plus Marner gets Auston Matthews to draw the attention away from him. Mack and Rants are the single focus every single game.

But for my actual answer it's close and I don't think you can pick wrong here, both guys are incredible but I'd homer vote Rants.

 

[Dr Salt]

Marner plays with Tavares... the linemate argument doesn't work for Marner. Plus Marner gets Auston Matthews to draw the attention away from him. Mack and Rants are the single focus every single game.

But for my actual answer it's close and I don't think you can pick wrong here, both guys are incredible but I'd homer vote Rants.

Marner did not always have Tavares and still played really well without him. He was the heartbeat of his line last season. But you are right, it is close.

 

[kegluu]

I think a few posters owe you an apology. Turns out you were more correct about Rantanen than a lot of folks thought.

Really, if im not mixing posters he
- considered him 3rd/2nd liner last season when he was PPG
- considers him 2nd liner this season
- considers Laine better player than him.

 

[cgf]

I think a few posters owe you an apology. Turns out you were more correct about Rantanen than a lot of folks thought.

This has certainly aged well...

 

[Yasuo]

Marner easy. Rantanen has showed his true level after his hot streak ended, I do not see any competition here. Marner is at least 1 tier higher

Playoff scoring (when it matter the most)

Rantanen 5 goals and 9 points in 5 games
Marner 2 goals and 4 points in 6 games

 

[Yasuo]

Rantanen had a great first half of the season but fell off a cliff. He’s pretty overrated on here.

Marner quite easily

Marner had a great season but fell off a cliff in the playoff. He's pretty overrated on here.

Rantanen quite easily

 

[Connor McConnor]

It's close but I'd take Marner personally. It's like 51-49 tho.

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

This has certainly aged well...

Did it, though? Five game sample sizes aren’t the best way to judge a player.

 

[ElizaE]

Did it, though? Five game sample sizes aren’t the best way to judge a player.

How about the last two seasons?

Rantanen 155 gp 60 goals 171 points
Marner 164 gp 48 goals 163 points

Playoffs:
Rantanen 11 gp 5 goals 13 points
Marner 13 gp 4 goals 13 points

 

[crowi]

too close to call is the only true answer here. Then in comes bias.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

How about the last two seasons?

Rantanen 155 gp 60 goals 171 points
Marner 164 gp 48 goals 163 points

Playoffs:
Rantanen 11 gp 5 goals 13 points
Marner 13 gp 4 goals 13 points

Rantanen easily. Marner is soft.

 

[LaMasquerade]

I agree with posters saying Marner is the best Leafs, but still have Rants a bit above him (very close to too close to call, because Mitch is awesome).. Both are still young developing players, so who knows what comes in future, but Rants will always have physical edge between the two. Now that Rants is again (almost) 100% healthy, he's producing like in the first half of the season!

 

[Mac Attack]

This is a winner of a poll. Close results with the added feature of guys that have different playing styles and different strengths to their games.

 

[LeafsNation75]

If you only want to compare regular season stats in 2018 Rantanen had 31 goals, 56 assists and 87 points.

In 2019 Marner had 26 goals, 68 assists and 94 points.

So I guess the question is who do you think will have a better season next year?

 

[Plural]

Close. Both guys have strengths I like a lot. Marner has better vision and his playmaking abilities are better. Rantanen is bit better scorer and his overall offensive skillset is bit more balanced. Marner seems to be the catalyst in his line who drives the offense. Rantanen is better at adapting to his line mates and play to their strengths. I think Rantanen takes this with the slightest edge because of his bigger frame and more physical game added to his better scoring abilities. But next season might just as easily make me change my mind.

 

[Spilot23]

Marner easy. Rantanen has showed his true level after his hot streak ended, I do not see any competition here. Marner is at least 1 tier higher

Hmmm yeah while Marner showed his true level in the regular season Rantanen is showing it in the playoffs. I guess Rantanen is at least 1 tier higher in the playoffs when it matters

 

[LeafsNation75]

Hmmm yeah while Marner showed his true level in the regular season Rantanen is showing it in the playoffs. I guess Rantanen is at least 1 tier higher in the playoffs when it matters

Yet in the 2018 playoffs Marner had 2 goals and 7 assists for 9 points in 7 games.

That same year for Colorado we saw Rantanen get 4 assists in 6 total games.

So don't judge Marner or any player on their playoff performance based on 1 year.

 

[Spilot23]

Yet in the 2018 playoffs Marner had 2 goals and 7 assists for 9 points in 7 games.

That same year for Colorado we saw Rantanen get 4 assists in 6 total games.

So don't judge Marner or any player on their playoff performance based on 1 year.

That’s why I’m using the sarcasm emoji buddy. It’s so easy to turn from someone after a short span of time. Rantanen somehow started slowing down then now people say Marner easy also on your stats you forgot that Rantanen has 8 less games maybe it would’ve been closer. Same with Draisaitl.. Rantanen had better stats than him last year and early this season people said Rantanen AINEC now it’s Draisaitl.

 

[LeafsNation75]

That’s why I’m using the sarcasm emoji buddy. It’s so easy to turn from someone after a short span of time. Rantanen somehow started slowing down then now people say Marner easy also on your stats you forgot that Rantanen has 8 less games maybe it would’ve been closer. Same with Draisaitl.. Rantanen had better stats than him last year and early this season people said Rantanen AINEC now it’s Draisaitl.

I honestly did not see the sarcasm emoji when I previously quoted you.

 

[newfy]

too close to call is the only true answer here. Then in comes bias.

This is the only right answer in this thread. Anyone else is going to make themselves look like a biased jackass of a homer. Their production is almost dead even and their linemate quality is pretty damn close as well.

 

[Mac2Rants]

If you only want to compare regular season stats in 2018 Rantanen had 31 goals, 56 assists and 87 points.

In 2019 Marner had 26 goals, 68 assists and 94 points.

So I guess the question is who do you think will have a better season next year?

Yeah and Ranty did it in 74 games compared to 82 and I have no doubt Ranty> Marner going forward

 

[Mac2Rants]

Yeah and Ranty did it in 74 games compared to 82 and I have no doubt Ranty> Marner going forward

ahh I see you used Rant's stats last year the year Marner put up what 69 pts?

 

[LeafsNation75]

ahh I see you used Rant's stats last year the year Marner put up what 69 pts?

I mentioned their most recent regular stats when one did better than the other. That's why I took Rantanen's numbers from 2018 and Marner's numbers from 2019.

 

[that is unfortunate]

Don't see the argument for Rantanen, both pass first players but Marner does it better, Marner is definitely the better playmaker and elevates others point totals whereas Rantanen's point totals are inflated by MacKinnon. Marner is closer to MacKinnon really, he's also much better defensively than Rantanen.