Speculation: Marner offer sheet

[VanillaCoke]

This thread is a waste of time.
Not going to happen.


I cant believe this thread is still open. And getting replies.

 

[xtra]

Wait the most interesting thing in this whole thread is the comment from the random leafs people claiming to know marner that Babcock could be fired.

If there’s any truth to that I hope whomever our gm is will dump Travis green and go after Babcock

 

[Elias GOATtersson]

Wait the most interesting thing in this whole thread is the comment from the random leafs people claiming to know marner that Babcock could be fired.

If there’s any truth to that I hope whomever our gm is will dump Travis green and go after Babcock

Babcock seems like an awful coach.

E: on topic, I don’t think it’s a good idea to sign Marner to an offer sheet that wouldn’t immediately be matched by Toronto. A $13 million dollar contract for Marner means a $14 million dollar contract for Pettersson, and a $11+ million contract for Hughes.

 

[xtra]

Babcock seems like an awful coach.

E: on topic, I don’t think it’s a good idea to sign Marner to an offer sheet that wouldn’t immediately be matched by Toronto. A $13 million dollar contract for Marner means a $14 million dollar contract for Pettersson, and a $11+ million contract for Hughes.

No awful coaches are Travis green and willie d.

 

[Elias GOATtersson]

No awful coaches are Travis green and willie d.

Based on what? Babcock played Matthews 16 minutes in game 7 (plus 2 minutes in garbage time when the game was already decided). That’s awful.

 

[xtra]

Based on what? Babcock played Matthews 16 minutes in game 7 (plus 2 minutes in garbage time when the game was already decided). That’s awful.

Almost 700 career wins; Stanley cup win; 3 finals appearances; iihf world championship win; World Cup win; 2 gold medals and he’s an awful coach????

And are you really asking why willie d and Travis green are bad coaches?

 

[Elias GOATtersson]

Almost 700 career wins; Stanley cup win; 3 finals appearances; iihf world championship win; World Cup win; 2 gold medals and he’s an awful coach????

And are you really asking why willie d and Travis green are bad coaches?

Explain why Green is a bad coach, you can’t group him with desjardins lmao.

You see the players on the teams he’s won with? A potato could win with them.

 

[xtra]

Explain why Green is a bad coach, you can’t group him with desjardins lmao.

You see the players on the teams he’s won with? A potato could win with them.

Green played Erik gudbrandson nearly 18 mins a night regardless of injuries guds should never have been playing that much

 

[Elias GOATtersson]

Green played Erik gudbrandson nearly 18 mins a night regardless of injuries guds should never have been playing that much

Damn, guess that settles it.

 

[xtra]

Damn, guess that settles it.

Isn’t that the same logic you used to say Babcock is a bad coach? Marners ice time?

 

[Fire Benning]

Can you lottery protect offer sheet picks?

 

[DonnyNucker]

Isn’t that the same logic you used to say Babcock is a bad coach? Marners ice time?

You don’t hire Babcock because you think Green sucks. You hire the best candidate possible. Similar logic to clamouring for Gillis. “Mediocre” is not the optimal solution to this teams problems. And put me in the “Babcock sucks” camp. Dudes style has passed

 

[ChilliBilly]

Can you lottery protect offer sheet picks?

No. its an awful concept. He's todays next "McDavid" or whatever. He's good but not that good.

Where would we be if gave up our last 4 draft picks for ... oh say even Tavares. No Juolevi, Boeser, Pettersson or Hughes. NO thanks.

 

[bh53]

I would rather keep the 4 firsts and go after Panarin who has shown interest in Vancouver

 

[rypper]

Anytime you have to potentially give up 4 1sts, let alone for a team that is on the border of being a lottery team, I think it's a huge mistake.

If we were on the edge of greatness and Marner would be a piece to put us over the top, maybe... but are we a Marner away from being a legit contender? Not without overhauling the defense.

 

[Pavel96]

What are the chances the Canucks could land Marner with one of the following offer sheet offers.

10 million per year - 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd
Over 10.2ish - 4 1sts

Given that we will MOST likely not be a bottom 10 team next year and will almost certainly be a playoff team the year after and continue on an upward trajectory, would you consider making one of these offers to land him? I would not hesitate to offer 10 million per year to him and would be VERY tempted to offer in the 12-14 range and cough up the 4 1sts. The chances of the 4 firsts equaling his points totals given the likely chance they are mid to late round firsts are not good.

If you do not agree with my analysis of the Canucks likely-hood of moving up in the standings over the next 1-5 years kindly STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD. Keep this conversation to the Marner v picks analysis please and thank you.

Hugs.

What's that? .... uh... PLAYOFFS? Don't talk about playoffs..... you kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game.

 

[UK Canuck]

a team like Philly who have the cap space and are in a better place to contend should be the ones offer sheeting Marner(or working out a trade given their abundance of prospects & picks)

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

The value simply isn't there in these massive offer sheets.

If you're looking to target a RFA I would say go for someone that would only require a 2nd round tenure. On the leafs that would be someone like Kapanen or Johnsson.

 

[Bubbles]

People think Marner is worth 4 1st rounders? Ay Caramba! One player does not build a team...maybe McDavid but look at the Oilers today.

Also, I think people forget that Marner actually has to SIGN the offer sheet first. If anything, he'll just take the offer and show it to the Leafs and see if they would do better.

 

[lawrence]

How the hell is he not a fan of taveres. He’s the reason for marners production spike

 

[me2]

What are the chances the Canucks could land Marner with one of the following offer sheet offers.

10 million per year - 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd
Over 10.2ish - 4 1sts

Given that we will MOST likely not be a bottom 10 team next year and will almost certainly be a playoff team the year after and continue on an upward trajectory, would you consider making one of these offers to land him? I would not hesitate to offer 10 million per year to him and would be VERY tempted to offer in the 12-14 range and cough up the 4 1sts. The chances of the 4 firsts equaling his points totals given the likely chance they are mid to late round firsts are not good.

If you do not agree with my analysis of the Canucks likely-hood of moving up in the standings over the next 1-5 years kindly STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD. Keep this conversation to the Marner v picks analysis please and thank you.

Hugs.

$10m is an easy match for TO and so a complete non-starter.

$11m they probably match.

$12-14m they don't and hope to get a few top 10 picks from us then go spend the $14m on UFAs. Canucks could do the same, 4 1sts and $14m UFAs seems like a no brainer. Would you rather have 4 1sts + Erik Karlsson or would you rather have Marner?

 

[dellzor]

I'd rather try to facilitate a trade than to give up 4 consecutive firsts.

 

[nucksflailtogether]

Keep in mind the Oilers almost gave up 4 1sts for vanek. Oh and that would've included possibly the Taylor hall pick unless vanek was the difference maker. Not worth the risk.

 

[Icebreakers]

Almost 700 career wins; Stanley cup win; 3 finals appearances; iihf world championship win; World Cup win; 2 gold medals and he’s an awful coach????

And are you really asking why willie d and Travis green are bad coaches?

Obviously babs is a better coach but if you gave Green the rosters Babcock has had I wouldn't be surprised if he matched those acolades

 

[ProstheticConscience]

What are the chances the Canucks could land Marner

Somewhere in the low zeroes, I think.