Speculation: Marner’s Deal

[Nineteen67]

Well, if making the playoffs is the bar you've set then that bar is pretty low...

I don’t set any bar.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

They’ll be fine. Id venture to say they’ll make the playoffs in a minimum of 3 of Matthews’ 5 remaining years after this.

F*ck that man. We are going for Cup runs every year for next 6 seasons. We need one at minimum and hopefully multiples.

 

[DanM]

F*ck that man. We are going for Cup runs every year for next 6 seasons. We need one at minimum and hopefully multiples.

Have to agree, anything less than one cup would be horrible.

Not that anybody just deserves things..... but we Leaf fans deserve a f***ing cup, we have gone though hell since 67.

And I can't even imagine what fans during the Ballard era felt..

 

[Guided by Veseys]

Could it just be there this class of RFAs just don’t want to sign a deal a year before their ELC expires?
Aho, Laine, Rantanen, McAvoy, Boeser and others didn’t sign anything either and they all play for more exp GMs.

Yes exactly but somehow a competent GM has to sign them a year early no matter what or else they are terrible.
I’m starting to think that the standards of HFboards Toronto are perhaps a tad unrealistic.

 

[diceman934]

Have to agree, anything less than one cup would be horrible.

Not that anybody just deserves things..... but we Leaf fans deserve a ****ing cup, we have gone though hell since 67.

And I can't even imagine what fans during the Ballard era felt..

The Ballard years were horrible and sadly because we had a good team and with relevant hockey people in keys roles we may have been able to win a cup or two.

 

[Nineteen67]

F*ck that man. We are going for Cup runs every year for next 6 seasons. We need one at minimum and hopefully multiples.

I predict 2021 they’ll compete for a Cup.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Have to agree, anything less than one cup would be horrible.

Not that anybody just deserves things..... but we Leaf fans deserve a ****ing cup, we have gone though hell since 67.

And I can't even imagine what fans during the Ballard era felt..

I lived through every minute of those years and I'm not ever sure I could describe what I felt, surreal is what it was.

 

[diceman934]

I predict 2021 they’ll compete for a Cup.

For me if our D is healthy in the playoffs we have a better then average chance at the cup this season. We have a great forward group and our goalie is among the best.
We just need our D to be healthy as well as some of our key players to play hard and brave. We are as good as any team when we play our game.

 

[diceman934]

I lived through every minute of those years and I'm not ever sure I could describe what I felt, surreal is what it was.

It was a constant gong show. Ballard in that private box in the end of the arena. Then him trading away Lanny to hurt Sittler. Wanting Roger to wear a paper bag on his head after he reportedly fired him as our coach.

 

[Gary Nylund]

For me if our D is healthy in the playoffs we have a better then average chance at the cup this season. We have a great forward group and our goalie is among the best.
We just need our D to be healthy as well as some of our key players to play hard and brave. We are as good as any team when we play our game.

I agree, we're competing for the cup now. I'm guessing that by "competing for the cup" he meant make the finals or something but yeah, we're most definitely competing for the cup now.

It was a constant gong show. Ballard in that private box in the end of the arena. Then him trading away Lanny to hurt Sittler. Wanting Roger to wear a paper bag on his head after he reportedly fired him as our coach.

His girlfriends dog ...

 

[Gary Nylund]

I think my "favourite" Ballard quote was when they asked him what he was looking for in his next coach after he again fired one. His answer was "someone who will work for 50 thousand a year". Some people probably thought he was kidding (as that was a low number, even back then) but nope, he went out and hired the eminently under-qualified John Brophy and I believe that his salary was indeed 50 thousand dollars a year.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

I know it was easier to make the playoffs back then... but this argument of “it was a worse time to be a leaf fan” during the Ballard years is nonsense. During the worse decade of Ballard, the leafs still made the playoffs half the time, and even won 2-3 playoff series. They finished last overall once, BUT STILL HAD THEIR FIRST ROUND PICK!!!

During the Jfj/Burke/Nonis decade, the leafs made the playoffs once, won zero playoff series, and lost the one series in the most legendary and pathetic game 7 collapse in all nhl world history. Let’s also add that the leafs finished 2nd last and 9th last while their divisional rival held their first round picks.

It’s not even close. Jfj/Burke/Nonis era was far worse.

We seem to romanticize history (even bad history), and that’s what’s happened to the Ballard years. Future generations will call the Jfj/Burke/Nonis era the darkest time of leaf history. And for good reason.

 

[BallardEra]

Have to agree, anything less than one cup would be horrible.

Not that anybody just deserves things..... but we Leaf fans deserve a ****ing cup, we have gone though hell since 67.

And I can't even imagine what fans during the Ballard era felt..

I always said that I'd die without having seen the Leafs and Caps win a Cup. Half way there and if I ever only see one Cup from the Leafs, I'd die a happy man.

Years and years of heartbreak makes you appreciate just how difficult it is to win it all. I prefer to keep the bar low at one Cup and anything beyond that is just pure gravy.

 

[82Ninety42011]

I always said that I'd die without having seen the Leafs and Caps win a Cup. Half way there and if I ever only see one Cup from the Leafs, I'd die a happy man.


Years and years of heartbreak makes you appreciate just how difficult it is to win it all. I prefer to keep the bar low at one Cup and anything beyond that is just pure gravy.

Im a Canucks fan I feel your pain congratulations on Caps half way there !

 

[BallardEra]

Im a Canucks fan I feel your pain congratulations on Caps half way there !

Thanks my friend. You guys seem to be on the right track too.

 

[nsleaf]

It was a constant gong show. Ballard in that private box in the end of the arena. Then him trading away Lanny to hurt Sittler. Wanting Roger to wear a paper bag on his head after he reportedly fired him as our coach.

It was a strange time for sure, I think I was more mesmerized than angry.
Imagine if the Internet existed then?

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[diceman934]

It was a strange time for sure, I think I was more mesmerized than angry.
Imagine if the Internet existed then?

I was angry it was a constant soap opera. His relationship with Yolanda and the way it was between her and Ballard’s kids. Hell Bill Ballard punched her in the eye lol. The bunker with him and King Clancy sitting there. He treated the Leafs like a over bearing father treated his kids.

He was a senile idiot.

 

[diceman934]

Lol they knew you were trolling.

 

[nsleaf]

I was angry it was a constant soap opera. His relationship with Yolanda and the way it was between her and Ballard’s kids. Hell Bill Ballard punched her in the eye lol. The bunker with him and King Clancy sitting there. He treated the Leafs like a over bearing father treated his kids.

He was a senile idiot.

Agree, you still mad?

 

[diceman934]

Agree, you still mad?

Not anymore. But we wasted a good team when the old man hired his GM who proceeded to trade away good players for scraps. Punch Imlach

 

[nsleaf]

Not anymore. But we wasted a good team when the old man hired his GM who proceeded to trade away good players for scraps. Punch Imlach

It was nuts by today's standards.

 

[PromisedLand]

 

[Nineteen67]

For me if our D is healthy in the playoffs we have a better then average chance at the cup this season. We have a great forward group and our goalie is among the best.
We just need our D to be healthy as well as some of our key players to play hard and brave. We are as good as any team when we play our game.

-I expect the two D are done for the season.
-Marleau and Hainsey are the only two to ever win a playoff series. -That’s a lot to ask, or it used to be when winning the Cup meant something.

 

[Nineteen67]

Marchand is becoming one of my favourite players.