Player Discussion Mark Stone | "Insanely Controversial" Edition

[Jorge Garcia]

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still not half as soft and slow as ryan

They're both slow, maybe Silf is slightly less slow. Ryan hits once in a while, Silf gets hit once in a while.

 

[Punchbowl]

Silf has really cooled down after that hot start to the year, wasn't he at .8ppg at some point?

20G 22A in 70GP this year (still very respectable numbers for a 2nd liner)

One thing I think we can all agree we miss about Silfverberg; that lethal release in the shoot-out. If he were still with us, Boucher would be trapping from puck-drop to get the 1-0 shoot-out win. Ryan's been pretty good in the shoot-out this year as well, though.

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They're both slow, maybe Silf is slightly less slow. Ryan hits once in a while, Silf gets hit once in a while.

This is purely anecdotal and may not represent the larger trend with Silverberg, but Silf absolutely leveled someone on our team in one of the games against ANA this year.

It was a great hit behind our net, can't remember who it was on.

 

[Jorge Garcia]

Silf has really cooled down after that hot start to the year, wasn't he at .8ppg at some point?

20G 22A in 70GP this year (still very respectable numbers for a 2nd liner)

One thing I think we can all agree we miss about Silfverberg; that lethal release in the shoot-out. If he were still with us, Boucher would be trapping from puck-drop to get the 1-0 shoot-out win. Ryan's been pretty good in the shoot-out this year as well, though.




This is purely anecdotal and may not represent the larger trend with Silverberg, but Silf absolutely leveled someone on our team in one of the games against ANA this year.

It was a great hit behind our net, can't remember who it was on.

Wish I'd seen that one. My memory of Silf was that when it came to hits, he found it more blessed to receive than to give.
And come to think of it, I wouldn't really call Ryan soft. He's easy to knock down, but he never shies away, he throws a few hits of his own, and keeps standing in front of the net, taking the hacks and having repeated bombs bounce off his body. He's the best and most willing net-front guy on the team.

 

[ISensFanI]

Any news on Stone ?

 

[Six Assets]

Any news on Stone ?

maybe.

 

[ISensFanI]

Wtf do you mean maybe lol

 

[armani]

Wtf do you mean maybe lol

Perhaps

 

[ISensFanI]

u r both dead to me

 

[MaxTheLimit]

Any news on Stone ?

Last news I can find is that he hopes to play tomorrow. Haven't heard anything else since.

 

[starling]

Stone hasn't scored in 13 games. That's entering Bobby Ryan territory

 

[OmniSens]

15 games since he's hit the back of the net. Really hoping the new season helps his confidence.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

15 games since he's hit the back of the net. Really hoping the new season helps his confidence.

He looked great yesterday.

 

[OmniSens]

He looked great yesterday.

He really did. His vision from behind the net is incredible. Maybe he should try to bank a lucky one off the goalie.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

What happened to this guy?

He went from this:

To this...

 

[Real Smart Sens Fan]

What happened to this guy?

He went from this:

To this...

If Stone was any more consistent, he'd be a super star.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

If Stone was any more consistent, he'd be a super star.

Consistency isn't the issue. He hasn't been his regular self these playoffs. For very good reason in sure. No one is asking for superstar. Asking for regular mark stone

 

[Tuna99]

Consistency isn't the issue. He hasn't been his regular self these playoffs. For very good reason in sure. No one is asking for superstar. Asking for regular mark stone

He's going to have a game, he's pressing a bit, but tonight I think he's the best player skater on the ice.

 

[aragorn]

Wish I'd seen that one. My memory of Silf was that when it came to hits, he found it more blessed to receive than to give.
And come to think of it, I wouldn't really call Ryan soft. He's easy to knock down, but he never shies away, he throws a few hits of his own, and keeps standing in front of the net, taking the hacks and having repeated bombs bounce off his body. He's the best and most willing net-front guy on the team.[/QUOTE]

No he's not. Smith, Pageau & Stone having been going to the front of the net all yr & not just in the playoffs like Ryan & Stalberg is now doing it too.

Stone has 2 goals & 1 assist in 9 playoff games. I think he must be hurt, doesn't seem like himself in these playoffs, hopefully, he will shake it off tonight & pot a couple.

 

[Micklebot]

Wish I'd seen that one. My memory of Silf was that when it came to hits, he found it more blessed to receive than to give.
And come to think of it, I wouldn't really call Ryan soft. He's easy to knock down, but he never shies away, he throws a few hits of his own, and keeps standing in front of the net, taking the hacks and having repeated bombs bounce off his body. He's the best and most willing net-front guy on the team.

No he's not. Smith, Pageau & Stone having been going to the front of the net all yr & not just in the playoffs like Ryan & Stalberg is now doing it too.

Stone has 2 goals & 1 assist in 9 playoff games. I think he must be hurt, doesn't seem like himself in these playoffs, hopefully, he will shake it off tonight & pot a couple.

Ryan was going to the net all year for screens and tips, it's how he broke his hand the first time I believe. He was a bit inconsistent in driving to the net when he had the puck on his stick, but he was definitely a net front presence all year.

 

[Real Smart Sens Fan]

Consistency isn't the issue. He hasn't been his regular self these playoffs. For very good reason in sure. No one is asking for superstar. Asking for regular mark stone

I'd say consistency is exactly his issue, in the sense that he does have 15-20 game stretches where he looks like this. I love Stone and I know he will always return to his usual self, but this disappearing act is nothing new. It's unfortunate, but not unexpected.

 

[Punchbowl]

I'd say consistency is exactly his issue, in the sense that he does have 15-20 game stretches where he looks like this. I love Stone and I know he will always return to his usual self, but this disappearing act is nothing new. It's unfortunate, but not unexpected.

Really? I've always found Stone to be pretty consistent except when he's injured, which is what I suspect is hampering his recent play. He goes through droughts with regard to hitting the game-sheet, but a healthy Stone is usually still a pain in the ass to play against.

Lately he seems to be struggling with decision-making all over the ice.

Apparently he's still leading the league in takeaways in the playoffs (tsn.ca/nhl/statistics), but that comes as a huge surprise to me. Obviously he's also missed a bunch of glorious chances in the offensive zone, and I've noticed quite a few giveaways he's made under negligible pressure. Defensively he's been okay, but where he used to thrive on takeaways in the neutral and offensive zones, he seems to have regressed to being only average (although the statistics seem to repudiate that).

He just looks like he's in that funk he gets in when injured, but I have no idea what's ailing him (if anything).

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I'm not sure but I think it seems that Stone has to be feeling well to play well. If something is nagging him he get's thrown off. When he is off he tends to take time to re-center.

Something is up with him imo.. He looks slower than usual and he is not anywhere close to our best forward which has shown he is

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

I'm not sure but I think it seems that Stone has to be feeling well to play well. If something is nagging him he get's thrown off. When he is off he tends to take time to re-center.

Something is up with him imo.. He looks slower than usual and he is not anywhere close to our best forward which has shown he is

Even in today's media interview he looks down. I hope all is well soon... as in tonight

 

[Mathieu]

Really? I've always found Stone to be pretty consistent except when he's injured, which is what I suspect is hampering his recent play. He goes through droughts with regard to hitting the game-sheet, but a healthy Stone is usually still a pain in the ass to play against.

Lately he seems to be struggling with decision-making all over the ice.

Apparently he's still leading the league in takeaways in the playoffs (tsn.ca/nhl/statistics), but that comes as a huge surprise to me. Obviously he's also missed a bunch of glorious chances in the offensive zone, and I've noticed quite a few giveaways he's made under negligible pressure. Defensively he's been okay, but where he used to thrive on takeaways in the neutral and offensive zones, he seems to have regressed to being only average (although the statistics seem to repudiate that).

He just looks like he's in that funk he gets in when injured, but I have no idea what's ailing him (if anything).

Agree with this 100%. When healthy, even if Stone doesn't appear on the score sheet he still creates things offensively and he still gets a ton a takeaways. He haven't been himself since returning from injury 10 games or so before the end of the season.

 

[Real Smart Sens Fan]

Really? I've always found Stone to be pretty consistent except when he's injured, which is what I suspect is hampering his recent play. He goes through droughts with regard to hitting the game-sheet, but a healthy Stone is usually still a pain in the ass to play against.

Lately he seems to be struggling with decision-making all over the ice.

Apparently he's still leading the league in takeaways in the playoffs (tsn.ca/nhl/statistics), but that comes as a huge surprise to me. Obviously he's also missed a bunch of glorious chances in the offensive zone, and I've noticed quite a few giveaways he's made under negligible pressure. Defensively he's been okay, but where he used to thrive on takeaways in the neutral and offensive zones, he seems to have regressed to being only average (although the statistics seem to repudiate that).

He just looks like he's in that funk he gets in when injured, but I have no idea what's ailing him (if anything).

I agree with much of what you say here, but I think the injury blends into the mental game for Stone, or something to that effect. Everyone gets in funks and most players get in funks every year. I'm sure a big part of Ryan's difficulty turning it on at all times during the regular season is the fact that he plays a high-contact game and puts his body in sacrifice areas. Also, Stone hadn't even scored a playoff goal before these playoffs. He really hasn't had much experience at this pace of play and it's quite possible that he's simply struggling to adjust. Combine that with discomfort, and you'll get a player that looks like they have no clue what they're doing.