Mark Spector made himself a fool...

[super6646]

Stolen shamelessly from cp:

Oilers leaving Flames behind in Battle of Alberta - Sportsnet.ca

Pretty much everything here you can flip in the opposite direction. Hell, they even have our old hc. Pretty good example of why to never publish material like this at the first sign of success, because the crow can come back to bite you so quickly. Also makes me want to be a little humble for our team in (god forbid) case we ever fall back to mediocrity, because this league can be such a crapshoot from year to year.

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[Anglesmith]

I remember this well. Spector was called out pretty hard on twitter later that season when the Flames temporarily passed the Oilers in the standings.

As you might expect, he took it in stride and responded like a professional.

 

[Volica]

It’s a big change in Alberta, and it won’t be changing back soon.

Move forward a season, Flames are the better team. Move forward two seasons, the Flames are BY FAR the better team and look to be the better team for the foreseeable future.

 

[Mobiandi]

Calgary’s a wild card team at best now, while the Oilers are well in contention for the Pacific Division lead.
It’s a big change in Alberta, and it won’t be changing back soon.

Peter Chiarelli would strongly beg to differ

 

[herashak]

Is there any evidence that Mark Spector or Eric Francis know how to skate

 

[Johnnybegood13]

I remember this well. Spector was called out pretty hard on twitter later that season when the Flames temporarily passed the Oilers in the standings.

As you might expect, he took it in stride and responded like a professional.

As in blocking me from twitter

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Spector is seriously the biggest back around.

 

[Mr Snrub]

Spector: "It’s a big change in Alberta, and it won’t be changing back soon."

Chiarelli: "Hold my beer"

 

[super6646]

Oh the f***ing irony if chia is fired tomorrow. Barely 2 years and a day later lol

 

[Volica]

Spector: "It’s a big change in Alberta, and it won’t be changing back soon."

Chiarelli: "Hold my beer"

What's this?

I might have some lighter fluid around here somewhe...

 

[DFF]

I kinda fell sorry for Gulutzan....trouble seems to follow him everywhere

 

[super6646]

I kinda fell sorry for Gulutzan....trouble seems to follow him everywhere

Nah. He's getting paid, and he's average at best at his job. Still think he would be better than hitchock.

 

[Nanuuk]

Spector and Principe are bigger goofballs than Francis, who somehow holds onto his job.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

At first, I just assumed it was a stupid man saying stupid things. Then I decided to look at it from the standpoint of when it was written:

Oilers were trending upwards, looked like their issues may have been resolved.

Flames were under a new coach and just got shelled 7-3 by those same Oilers. (who swept the season series IIRC)

Edmonton Oilers at Calgary Flames Box Score — January 21, 2017 | Hockey-Reference.com

Then, I look at that boxscore and realize how much better their roster was then than it is today. Had the Oilers kept that roster together, Spector may not have been that far off.

 

[Calculon]

Chiarelli basically inherited the following pieces:

xxx-McDavid-Yakupov
Hall-Hopkins-Eberle
Pouliot-Draisaitl-Purcell

He basically squandered all of that scoring depth into cap anchors and trash. All they have to show for getting rid of Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, Pouliot and Purcell is dead cap space and Larsson. It's incredible really. If Chiarelli had made no trades but focused on retaining the talent he already had, while also signing some defensive free agents, the Oilers would almost certainly be a lot better.

 

[The Gnome]

Chiarelli basically inherited the following pieces:

xxx-McDavid-Yakupov
Hall-Hopkins-Eberle
Pouliot-Draisaitl-Purcell

He basically squandered all of that scoring depth into cap anchors and trash. All they have to show for getting rid of Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, Pouliot and Purcell is dead cap space and Larsson. It's incredible really. If Chiarelli had made no trades but focused on retaining the talent he already had, while also signing some defensive free agents, the Oilers would almost certainly be a lot better.

I wish there was a mind blowing emoji on here. I mean I know what's gone down, but when you see the lineup penciled in...I swear to the hockey gods that PC f***ing hated the Oilers and tried his best to destroy them. At the end of the day, we are lucky, because that team would've been scary even with a mediocre GM.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Chiarelli basically inherited the following pieces:

xxx-McDavid-Yakupov
Hall-Hopkins-Eberle
Pouliot-Draisaitl-Purcell

He basically squandered all of that scoring depth into cap anchors and trash. All they have to show for getting rid of Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, Pouliot and Purcell is dead cap space and Larsson. It's incredible really. If Chiarelli had made no trades but focused on retaining the talent he already had, while also signing some defensive free agents, the Oilers would almost certainly be a lot better.

Don't forget the D corps, critical to the initial demise.

Sekera - Klefbom
Schultz - Nurse
Fayne* - Davidson*
Gryba* - Reinhart*

Not a lot of options via free agency that year (Sekera was one) and you have to think the Oilers might be challenged to attract free agents given their place in the standings at the time. However Schlemko and Bartkowski were better options than anyone in the bottom four of the above list and probably would have signed fairly easily.

To trade that package they did for Reinhart instead of an established NHL defenseman, is mind bottling.

 

[Mobiandi]

To trade that package they did for Reinhart instead of an established NHL defenseman, is mind bottling

I wonder if that happens if Hamilton get shipped to another team instrad of us. I bet Chiarelli felt upstaged on McDavid day and pride got the better of him

 

[Ace Rimmer]

I wonder if that happens if Hamilton get shipped to another team instrad of us. I bet Chiarelli felt upstaged on McDavid day and pride got the better of him

Well rumour has it the Oilers were chasing Hamilton hard - to the point of threatening an offer sheet (would have been a 1st, 2nd, 3rd IIRC) leading the Bruins to trade him to Calgary for a 1st and two 2nds.

 

[Mobiandi]

Well rumour has it the Oilers were chasing Hamilton hard - to the point of threatening an offer sheet (would have been a 1st, 2nd, 3rd IIRC) leading the Bruins to trade him to Calgary for a 1st and two 2nds.

I wonder if he still pulls the trigger that fast if Treliving doesn't beat him to it. Say he goes to Arizona or something, does Chiarelli panic trade for Reinhart that same day? I somehow doubt it

 

[Ace Rimmer]

I wonder if he still pulls the trigger that fast if Treliving doesn't beat him to it. Say he goes to Arizona or something, does Chiarelli panic trade for Reinhart that same day? I somehow doubt it

I think the mandate was "get an age-appropriate defenseman that will fit with the core" and Reinhart was "plan B"

 

[super6646]

Oh the ****ing irony if chia is fired tomorrow. Barely 2 years and a day later lol

Nvm, he had already been fired when this was posted. 2 years on the day is much better anyway.

 

[The Gnome]

you don't say.

 

[flamesforcup]

Chiarelli basically inherited the following pieces:

xxx-McDavid-Yakupov
Hall-Hopkins-Eberle
Pouliot-Draisaitl-Purcell

He basically squandered all of that scoring depth into cap anchors and trash. All they have to show for getting rid of Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, Pouliot and Purcell is dead cap space and Larsson. It's incredible really. If Chiarelli had made no trades but focused on retaining the talent he already had, while also signing some defensive free agents, the Oilers would almost certainly be a lot better.

U forgot Barzal which is the worst trade of them all. At least for Hall they got an ok player.

 

[CraigsList]

Spector is an idiot.