Discussion in 'Toronto Maple Leafs' started by Fogelhund, Nov 7, 2019.
What happened to Dubas trading them?
as someone yesterday pointed out the chances of one or both being traded increases if the post pass thru waivers.
Not shocking in the least bit. He's literally the definition of a scrub. A poor man's Jason Blake
No one wants Petan. He’s not an NHL player. Trading for Petan/ extending Petan is just another example of how Dubas can’t evaluate talent.
1) No. NTC does not protect from a waiver claim.
2) My understanding is No. He has to be assigned to the AHL to be off the Leafs cap. It's not required he actually play for the AHL team--they could tell him to stay home--but he does have to report and is considered on the AHL roster. My understanding is that players on AHL rosters are not free to practice full time with the NHL squad.
Well, I guess this means the Leafs wont be getting a pair of conditional 2nd-round picks for Marincin and Petan?
They're not Roman Polak and Nick Spaling!
I sincerely doubt Par Lindholm would've been extended by the team, and we already own the 7th round. Adding Petan cost us nothing aside from a contract spot. Now the Marlies have one of the best forwards in the AHL.
Lindholm was literal garbage and one of our worst PKers. Getting rid of him was an upgrade itself, and it made room for Moore.
Didn't the pk get worse after he left?
Dubas might be able to move Petan and/or Marty if the Leafs retain salary.
Some people thought Ottawa would be interested. Can't see that. They are rebuilding and have 2 centers due back from injury fairly soon.
Why would they do that?
As a favour to Petan and Marincin or they would rather pay a percentage of their salaries (yes the money does not matter to the Leafs but it might to the Sens) or to free up a contract.
I don't care what you are all saying I'm excited to see Petsn play on the Marlies. But with this being the 2nd time through I don't think he is going to have a good game
The Leafs traded an NHL caliber player, for a guy who isn’t. It’s that simple really. Dubas has no clue how to evaluate talent and things are only going to get worse. Literally every player Dubas brought in except Tavares ( anyone could’ve signed him) and Muzzin ( overpayment) has been trash.
I don't know the answer to the question, but
@dekesfordays does....he said lindholm was garbage on the PK...so he must know the stats. Look forward to the stats @dekesfordays
While @dekesfordays is at it he can tell me how to do the @ tagging too.
Lmao lindholm was awful. Also who cares about minimum salary guy?
Sure, the real dollars don't matter to the Leafs but the cap hits from the salary retained certainly would. Its the whole reason they are being sent down and the leafs have to play with a 21 man roster rather than a 23 man roster when Hyman comes back.
I think the leafs could probably trade Muzzin for a 1st and a low prospect if he had another year on his contract. So I'm not sure if it was an over payment. I would say that Muzzin has been the Leaf's best defenceman so far this year (it was pricey though).
I also think Dubas has brought in some other good players. I like Mikheyev and I think Kerfoot has been playing well lately. Barrie hasn't been playing well, but I think he will get better. I think he is being asked to focus on the defensive side of his game, which isn't his strong suit. It's kinda like what was asked of Reilly for his development too.
But I agree the Lindholm/Petan+extension trade along with the Sparks mid season extension doesn't look great for player evaluation. I also wasn't really a fan of his strategy for filling in the bottom six this year of just throwing **** at the wall and seeing what sticks. But I guess all he could afford was league minimum contracts due to the Marner negotiations.
I guess you haven't heard, the Leafs are in a bit of a cap crunch
It doesn't really help the Leafs to retain. Theres no upside to retaining on salaries that can be fully buried in the minors.
Start with the 3rd line of Kerfoot-Mikheyev-Moore all excellent players brought in by our top flight GM. Watch for them and enjoy your viewing
Did Dubas draft Moore?
Well, and Mikheyev.
Lindholm --is he trash too, or is Par Lindholm a bona fide NHL player because he happens to play for the vaunted Boston Bruins? Would he be trash too if he were still wiggling around on the Leafs, because he sure didn't do much here. He was Peter Holland 2.0, and might still be.
I think you're not being fair in your assessment, above.
Moore went undrafted. He was signed out of the NCAA in 2016. Dubas was GM of the Marlies at the time.
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