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How good do you guys think he is, everyone was hyping him before the draft and when he got to play right away in the NHL everyone was saying he definetley is the real deal, but then once he slipped in WJC he got bashed on. So right now how good is he? true franchise goaltender?

If he were to have been drafted in 04 instead of 03 what spot do you think he would have gone?, would he have edged out Malkin or even Ovechkin?
 

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#2 said:
How good do you guys think he is, everyone was hyping him before the draft and when he got to play right away in the NHL everyone was saying he definetley is the real deal, but then once he slipped in WJC he got bashed on. So right now how good is he? true franchise goaltender?

If he were to have been drafted in 04 instead of 03 what spot do you think he would have gone?, would he have edged out Malkin or even Ovechkin?
He definately can be a franchise goaltender in the future. He didn't really have a good year, espeacially after the loss in the finals of the WJC. He's lost his confidence sort of like what Tommy Salo went through after the 2002 Olympics, yet Salo still hasn't recovered. Anyway, I don't think he would of edged out Ovechkin, but Malkin I'm not sure. Probably not. Just my opinion.
 

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He definately can be a franchise goaltender in the future. He didn't really have a good year, espeacially after the loss in the finals of the WJC. He's lost his confidence sort of like what Tommy Salo went through after the 2002 Olympics, yet Salo still hasn't recovered. Anyway, I don't think he would of edged out Ovechkin, but Malkin I'm not sure. Probably not. Just my opinion.

Yup, i think he could have also edged out Malkin, mostly because i think its rare to find potential in a goalie like Fleury. I also was looking through hockeysfuture and i saw him rated as a 9.5, which is pretty damn rare since ive only seen it on one other person(Jason Spezza), also since the criteria is a 10 is like Gretz, Lemieux, Orr and a 9.5 is pretty damn close to that 10.
 

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No way would of he edged out Ovechkin, till this day I still don't think he should of edged out Horton, Staal and Zherdev (team need aside).
 

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He looked pretty good to me when I saw him play. Most goalies peak around their 30's and he has already at his young age showed himself capable in an NHL setting.
 

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Seeing how he was ran over by the Chicoutimi Sagueneens in the playoffs, I'm not sure if he's that good anymore. I always thought he was one of the best goalies in the Q, but that he was more like an Eric Fichaud rather than being a future superstar.
 

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Seeing how he was ran over by the Chicoutimi Sagueneens in the playoffs, I'm not sure if he's that good anymore. I always thought he was one of the best goalies in the Q, but that he was more like an Eric Fichaud rather than being a future superstar.

No one has ever blamed that series on Fleury, and nor should they. Cape Breton only had, literally, about 5 position players that were even trying according to every Eagles fan I know.

It was another case of him working his ass off and still getting a sunburn on the back of the neck.
 

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The thing that scares me is the Penguins player developement. While it has gotten a little better it is still pretty bad. If they are going to invest time and money in a player like MAF their going to need the right tools. A top notch goal tending coach being the main thing is still something that the Penguins are still lacking. MAF has all the skill in the world but its up to the Pens to craft a future star.
 

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rahan said:
Seeing how he was ran over by the Chicoutimi Sagueneens in the playoffs, I'm not sure if he's that good anymore. I always thought he was one of the best goalies in the Q, but that he was more like an Eric Fichaud rather than being a future superstar.

He was not ran over. If anything he kept the team in games they were being outworked and outhustled in by a mile. None of the 3 losses he got charged with were his fault. You might want to check up on your info next time before posting a load of garbage.
 

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whether or not he'll realize his potential, i'm not totally sure yet. during october this year however, i saw athleticism and reflexes from him that i have never seen in any goalie before.
 

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The thing that scares me is the Penguins player developement. While it has gotten a little better it is still pretty bad. If they are going to invest time and money in a player like MAF their going to need the right tools. A top notch goal tending coach being the main thing is still something that the Penguins are still lacking. MAF has all the skill in the world but its up to the Pens to craft a future star.

You raise a very solid point - last season was the first in recent years where the Pens goalies received some direct tuition from Lorne Molleken. As our entire organization lacks any goalie near veteran status, we need some goalie coach or at least some classy veteran presence or else I am worried a lot of the young Pens goalies would regress, especially if the Pens defense starts leaking goals like the start of last season. I personally think the Pens defense will be better than last years, but even so, the goalies need some support. Perhaps Ratrick Roy would like to come mentor Fleury :)
 

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You raise a very solid point - last season was the first in recent years where the Pens goalies received some direct tuition from Lorne Molleken. As our entire organization lacks any goalie near veteran status, we need some goalie coach or at least some classy veteran presence or else I am worried a lot of the young Pens goalies would regress, especially if the Pens defense starts leaking goals like the start of last season. I personally think the Pens defense will be better than last years, but even so, the goalies need some support. Perhaps Ratrick Roy would like to come mentor Fleury :)
Coming from NJ I remember Marty Brouder coming along with some skill but not being a natural. I used to go to alot of the Devil practices back then and saw just how much work he went through to become the player he is today. The coaches would work with him until it seemed he would drop and then when it seemed like practice was over he would take wrap around shots and work on his stick handling. Who knows what he did behind closed doors but his on ice work habits and the Devils coaching staff were overly impressive.
 

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He was not ran over. If anything he kept the team in games they were being outworked and outhustled in by a mile. None of the 3 losses he got charged with were his fault. You might want to check up on your info next time before posting a load of garbage.

Call it the way you wanna call it, I don't care. I didn't mean it in the way that he was the reason they lost, but he still let in a lot of goals in that series, and friends told me a few of them were softies. Now my opinion on Marc-Andre Fleury is as valid as yours, as it is one guy's opinion. It's not a load of garbage, thank you. I think he's gonna be an Eric Fichaud. But if you think he's gonna beat Roy's records, I'm not gonna say it's a load of garbage.
 

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How good do you guys think he is, everyone was hyping him before the draft and when he got to play right away in the NHL everyone was saying he definetley is the real deal, but then once he slipped in WJC he got bashed on. So right now how good is he? true franchise goaltender?

If he were to have been drafted in 04 instead of 03 what spot do you think he would have gone?, would he have edged out Malkin or even Ovechkin?

Marc-Andre Fleury=Franchise goalie
 

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rahan said:
Call it the way you wanna call it, I don't care. I didn't mean it in the way that he was the reason they lost, but he still let in a lot of goals in that series, and friends told me a few of them were softies. Now my opinion on Marc-Andre Fleury is as valid as yours, as it is one guy's opinion. It's not a load of garbage, thank you. I think he's gonna be an Eric Fichaud. But if you think he's gonna beat Roy's records, I'm not gonna say it's a load of garbage.

I never said he's going to beat ANY records, I just don't see how you can label a kid a bust when he's not even 20yrs old.
 

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#2 said:
How good do you guys think he is, everyone was hyping him before the draft and when he got to play right away in the NHL everyone was saying he definetley is the real deal, but then once he slipped in WJC he got bashed on. So right now how good is he? true franchise goaltender?

If he were to have been drafted in 04 instead of 03 what spot do you think he would have gone?, would he have edged out Malkin or even Ovechkin?

There's no way he would have gotten picked ahead of Ovechkin in any draft. As for Malkin, if I were to do a power ranking-style list I'd have him ahead of Fleury, but as to who I would draft first that might come down to team need.
 

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There's no way he would have gotten picked ahead of Ovechkin in any draft. As for Malkin, if I were to do a power ranking-style list I'd have him ahead of Fleury, but as to who I would draft first that might come down to team need.

Same.

Head-to-Head I have Fleury and Malkin on exactly even grounds. Fleury is a franchise goalie and Malkin a franchise center, whichever my team needs more is my pick, luckily we won't have to make that pick here, not for a while at least.
 

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luckily we won't have to make that pick here, not for a while at least.

If Pitts ever let Fleury go it would be the WORST move in franchise history.
 

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#66 said:
The thing that scares me is the Penguins player developement. While it has gotten a little better it is still pretty bad. If they are going to invest time and money in a player like MAF their going to need the right tools. A top notch goal tending coach being the main thing is still something that the Penguins are still lacking. MAF has all the skill in the world but its up to the Pens to craft a future star.
The Penguins had a goaltending coach last year.
Now my opinion on Marc-Andre Fleury is as valid as yours
But your opinion is based off of what your friends are telling you.
 

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The Penguins had a goaltending coach last year.
Yeah but he wasn't a top notch coach. I think that he was there to help Edzo more than anything. I would want someone like Caron, Tretjak or a top notch specialist in that area.
 

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Fleury, from what I've seen from him, in his Junior days and has a pro at only 18yrs. old will be a fantastic goalie in the same class than Roy, Brodeur and Luongo.

He has everything you want from a goalie.

Remember the first 15 games with Pittsburgh, he was simply awesome, considering the team he had in front.

When he came back as a Jr. he continued his good work in the regular season.
In the playoffs all the team was bad and also the back up.

This year he will turn out in the AHL and this is the normal step, for a young goalie,
to eventually have success in the NHL.
 
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