Evilo said:
How long are you going to take to realize one individual is not like another?
That he could be closer to Barrasso than Fichaud?
That he simply could set new standards?
He COULD do all of those things, but what's the likelihood that he will?
For every Barrasso that has come up and won the Vezina Trophy as an 18 year old, there have been many more goalies who have been ruined at a young age. There have also been many more goalies that have come up and spent time in the minors. Who are the starters in the NHL today?
Anaheim: Giguere: spent time in minors
Atlanta: Nurminen: came over pretty late in his career, played in minors
Boston: Potvin: completed junior career, played in AHL
Buffalo: Biron: played out junior eligibility, played in AHL
Calgary: Turek: came over as a Euro vet
Carolina: Weekes: spent years in the minors, NHL backup
Chicago: Thibault: came in at 18, played in the Q during the lockout
Colorado: Aebischer: time in minors and as backup behind Roy
Columbus: Denis: same as Aebischer
Dallas: Turco: finished college career, played in minors, then backed up Belfour
Detroit: Hasek: Euro vet
Edmonton: Salo: Euro vet who played in minors
Florida: Luongo: time in Q and in the AHL after being drafted
Los Angeles: Cechmanek: Euro vet
Minnesota: Fernandez: played in Q, minors, was a backup
Montreal: Theodore: finished Q career, split time with other Montreal goalies
Nashville: Vokoun: time in Montreal system, backed up Dunham
New Jersey: Brodeur: played in Q and in the AHL before coming up as a 22 year old.
Islanders: Snow: played in the AHL for years then backed up a bunch of goalies
Rangers: Dunham: long college career, AHL career, backed up Brodeur
Ottawa: Lalime: finished Q career, played in the IHL or AHL before landing steady job in Ottawa
Philadelphia: Hackett: finished juniors, played in minors, backed up in the NHL
Phoenix: Burke: played three years before coming up to play in the NHL
Pittsburgh: ?
St. Louis: Osgood: came up as a 20 year old having spent time in the WHL and some time in the AHL
San Jose: Nabokov: long apprenticeship in the minors before coming up
Tampa Bay: Khabibulin: played in Europe before coming over to minors, then played a few years as a backup
Toronto: Belfour: played parts of 4 years in the minors in the Hawks system before coming up as a 25 year old
Vancouver: Cloutier: finished career in juniors, played in minors and backed up Richter for awhile
Washington: Kolzig: spent years in the AHL and as a backup before breaking out.
Look at all the starters in the NHL today, and tell me Fleury is better than all of them at the same age. Fleury's career has been great so far, but plenty of guys have starred in the WJC, plenty of guys have shone when they first came up, plenty of guys have been drafted in the first round. Plenty of guys have been sent down before.
Fleury could develop into a Barrasso type rookie, but empiricim says the likelihood of that happening is unlikely in today's NHL. Teams like the Islanders rush their rookies. Teams like Ottawa don't.