Confirmed with Link: Maple Leafs sign Jordan Subban, Adam Cracknell - Resign Martin Marincin

[Le Cobra]

Underrated signing that Subban. Could be YUGE!

 

[The Nic]

Big fan of the Subban signing. Could be a key piece for the Marlins, he’s had some big years in the A

Whoa! PJ Subban is going to play baseball now? Shocking event.

 

[diceman934]

Subban? Wonder if that means Sparks or Pickard are dealt now

Cracknell is depth and toughness more than anything - again wonder if this means Martin is gone...

Pickard is gathering lots of interest.

 

[PanniniClaus]

Could one Subban landing be a precursor to a second Subban landing?

Nashville can't keep their top 4 forever.

 

[Boutette]

Though Mirtle (who seems tuned into the current management groups thinking) suggested Leafs maybtrafe Hainsey/Zaitsev whichbcould open up some new opportunities

What Marlie defensemen are ready to step up to replace 2 of the team's top 4 defensemen? Dermott might be ready, but there's nobody else in the system right now anyone could call comfortably a top 4 defenseman as yet. If one or two of those guys are replaced it will be with an NHLer.

 

[Boutette]

Subban is an interesting signing - he certainly need to fill up in order to fill up

He's not getting taller that's for sure.

 

[Leafidelity]

 

[uncleben]

Don't really see why Cracknell gets an NHL deal.

Frankly, I don't get why he would get an AHL deal from us either, the Marlies are full enough, but if we wanted a vet that could potentially come up in extreme emergency, why didn't we re-sign Greening to an NHL deal?

Greening>Cracknell and he already has put in time with the organization.

AHL/depth signings are not really any thing we needed, but I can get behind Jooris and Subban.
Cracknell is just a weird signing.

 

[Jeffrey Pedler]

Subban? Wonder if that means Sparks or Pickard are dealt now

Cracknell is depth and toughness more than anything - again wonder if this means Martin is gone...

Malcom Subban is the goalie, Jordan is a defenceman like P.K

 

[PanniniClaus]

Don't really see why Cracknell gets an NHL deal.

Frankly, I don't get why he would get an AHL deal from us either, the Marlies are full enough, but if we wanted a vet that could potentially come up in extreme emergency, why didn't we re-sign Greening to an NHL deal?

Greening>Cracknell and he already has put in time with the organization.

AHL/depth signings are not really any thing we needed, but I can get behind Jooris and Subban.
Cracknell is just a weird signing.

Not sure why Cracknell...we did not give him 4 years at 12 million though so that's good.

 

[Menzinger]

What Marlie defensemen are ready to step up to replace 2 of the team's top 4 defensemen? Dermott might be ready, but there's nobody else in the system right now anyone could call comfortably a top 4 defenseman as yet. If one or two of those guys are replaced it will be with an NHLer.

I personally expect Dubas will make 1-2 trades to bring in a guy for the top 4. Some Marlies guys may find themselves filling out the #6 and #7 slots like Holl or Marincin.

 

[Ovate]

What happened with Subban last year? His production fell off a cliff.

 

[Red Piller]

Like Cracknell and Jooris for you guys. Subban will never make the NHL don't hold your breath. AHL depth for sure there

 

[Boutette]

I personally expect Dubas will make 1-2 trades to bring in a guy for the top 4. Some Marlies guys may find themselves filling out the #6 and #7 slots like Holl or Marincin.

Unlikely for more than just a cup of coffee, there's like min. 4 players ahead of those guys at the moment. I doubt he's going to trade away that much of the systems defensive depth.

 

[The Man with a Plan]

Unlikely for more than just a cup of coffee, there's like min. 4 players ahead of those guys at the moment. I doubt he's going to trade away that much of the systems defensive depth.

No but being able to put together a 1st along with say Pickard and another good prospect who's name doesn't start with L should be enough for a pretty good young d man or at least just need a tweak or two.

 

[Stephen]

These seem like moves to reinforce the Marlies so they can remain competitive despite potential promotions. (Dermott full time, Liljegren for a look see, Johnsson, etc).

 

[PromisedLand]

Subban? Wonder if that means Sparks or Pickard are dealt now

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how many beers so far Bert?

 

[TheProspector]

Cracknell is a great pick. He's a solid 3rd liner, and he probably will get deployed as a 4th liner. Serious moneypuck pick there.

 

[HockeyGuruPitka]

One way deal for marincin. I assume the leafs expect him to push for a job with the big club. Played extremely well for the Marlies

 

[Antropovsky]

Cracknell is a great pick. He's a solid 3rd liner, and he probably will get deployed as a 4th liner. Serious moneypuck pick there.

Why couldn't he crack an NHL roster last season?

 

[wingman75]

One way deal for marincin. I assume the leafs expect him to push for a job with the big club. Played extremely well for the Marlies

He'd be on a damn short leash if it were me. His game has not translated to the NHL in previous stints. Until I see something different, I don't expect that to change. Nothing wrong with being a good AHLer, but I would assume he hits the road if this attempt doesn't work out.

 

[member 300185]

Is it wrong that i'm nearly as excited about Jordan Subban as Tavares?
Guy has some serious potential. (yes, the D-man)

What are you smokin'? Jordan has no potential at all. He is what he is. His numbers are atrocious. Hopefully the Marlies can develop him a bit, enough to make him serviceable at least.

 

[Kiwi]

I personally expect Dubas will make 1-2 trades to bring in a guy for the top 4. Some Marlies guys may find themselves filling out the #6 and #7 slots like Holl or Marincin.

I think Rosen may give it a decent push as well

His skating and all around play really improved as the Marlies season progressed, I thought he was there best Defenseman during the playoffs

 

[SprDaVE]

He'd be on a damn short leash if it were me. His game has not translated to the NHL in previous stints. Until I see something different, I don't expect that to change. Nothing wrong with being a good AHLer, but I would assume he hits the road if this attempt doesn't work out.

There's a bit of a log jam on our LHD with Rielly (unless he moves to RD), Gardiner, Dermott, Rosen and Borgman. That's some serious competition for Marincin to get into and try to make the Leafs.

It's a long off-season though. Maybe things open up for him to sneak in as a 7th D.

 

[deletethis]

I get the impression that Dubas thinks Jordan Subban has been mishandled.