GDT: Maple Leafs @ Red Wings - 7PM ET (preseason game 8)

Discussion in 'Detroit Red Wings' started by Christien, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. Christien

    Christien FZ11

    Joined:
    May 1, 2010
    Messages:
    2,239
    Likes Received:
    402
    Trophy Points:
    94
  2. redwings8831

    redwings8831 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2009
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Cholowski out with the other three playing again. Maybe he made it?
     
  3. Christien

    Christien FZ11

    Joined:
    May 1, 2010
    Messages:
    2,239
    Likes Received:
    402
    Trophy Points:
    94
    At this point I don't see how he doesn't, but what do I know
     
    abparry87 likes this.
  4. Tatar Shots

    Tatar Shots Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2014
    Messages:
    4,927
    Likes Received:
    663
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Looks like Cholowski won a spot.
     
  5. sully6one

    sully6one Unregistered User

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    1,582
    Likes Received:
    26
    Trophy Points:
    71
    Location:
    Michigan
    I’m going to assume 2 F and 2 D spots were up for grabs (1 D partially). I’d give the Fs to Rasmussen and Svechnikov and the Ds to Cholowski and Hronek. Hronek can QB the PP Frk is on (if he’s in the line up) and Cholowski can QB the other unit. Hronek gets sent down when Green comes back (unless he excels). Can we all agree with this?
     
  6. lhsgolf19

    lhsgolf19 Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2016
    Messages:
    792
    Likes Received:
    439
    Trophy Points:
    59
    Location:
    Birmingham, MI
    Way to go #21... Earned that spot!
     
  7. Hinterland

    Hinterland Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2016
    Messages:
    4,556
    Likes Received:
    338
    Trophy Points:
    79
    No. From last seasons defense, only DannyD, Kronwall and Jensen will be available on opening night. So 4 open spots. Maybe 3 if Ericsson or Daley feel good enough to be the scratch. I'd send down Zadina and Hronek, waive Jensen and call up Lashoff if both Daley and Ericsson can't go. Might call up Lashoff anyway and waive the other two with Jensen.
     
    borisbadenough likes this.
  8. The Zetterberg Era

    The Zetterberg Era RIP Fugu

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2011
    Messages:
    32,805
    Likes Received:
    2,371
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Location:
    Ft. Myers, FL
    I have to disagree, Lashoff is terrible. Jensen is better than him at everything in my opinion...
     
    Fire Ken Holland likes this.
  9. Hinterland

    Hinterland Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2016
    Messages:
    4,556
    Likes Received:
    338
    Trophy Points:
    79
    Honestly pretty much everybody is better than Jensen...and Daley and Ericsson aren't much better.
     
  10. RedMenace

    RedMenace **** Cancer

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,894
    Likes Received:
    190
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Location:
    Luke Witkowski's Beard
    (Lashoff fanboy post incoming)

    Jensen and Lashoff are two entirely different players.

    I've never understood the Lashoff hate. He's a big, understated, safe, stay-at-home defenseman, with a good first pass out of the zone. He's not flashy, he doesn't score goals, and his skating is average, but on a 3rd pairing and the PK he gets the job done. He's also pretty good at pinching in the offensive zone to support the forwards to keep the puck deep.

    Finally, he punishes people in front of the net with his stick... it's why I like to affectionately refer to him as Slashoff.

    I don't know, it's all optics and opinions. I like Lashoff, and I know a lot don't. Oh well.
     
    Hinterland likes this.
  11. Lazlo Hollyfeld

    Lazlo Hollyfeld Pitter Patter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2004
    Messages:
    11,375
    Likes Received:
    1,532
    Trophy Points:
    169
    Lashoff apparently has a torn ACL anyway.

    Brian Lashoff Fantasy Hockey News

    It's unclear if he'll play through the injury for the Griffins but that certainly means he has no business being on the Wings.
     
    RedMenace likes this.
  12. The Zetterberg Era

    The Zetterberg Era RIP Fugu

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2011
    Messages:
    32,805
    Likes Received:
    2,371
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Location:
    Ft. Myers, FL
    He doesn't have the foot speed to play in the NHL. If I want a guy that is big and to clear the front of the net with troubling skating it is easily McIlrath for me. He will have the same problems as Lashoff at times, but he is a big body that enjoys throwing his weight around and protects his teammates.

    Lashoff is a big guy. He is a guy I want them to keep in GR and heck make him the C as he can help an organization. But he isn't a NHL player for me. Not in the way we talk about Jensen, who struggles at times but is a passable #6/7 Lashoff really is a good #10 or lower to have in your organization. As the game got even quicker a guy like Lashoff lost a lot of his use.
     
  13. Hinterland

    Hinterland Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2016
    Messages:
    4,556
    Likes Received:
    338
    Trophy Points:
    79
    McIlrath is a lot slower than Lashoff and less mobile as well.
     
  14. RedMenace

    RedMenace **** Cancer

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,894
    Likes Received:
    190
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Location:
    Luke Witkowski's Beard
    I haven't seen a lot of McIlrath, but Lashoff is far from a bad skater. I do wish he was a little meaner and more physical because of his size, but he is what he is. Granted he's 28, the same age as Dekeyser, so maybe there's still room for improvement, but meh, not going to lose any sleep over it.

    Besides, I always liked his game more than Brendan Smith's, so there's no accounting for taste. :laugh:
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2018
    Hinterland likes this.
  15. winger7020

    winger7020 Registered User

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    427
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Definitely only a couple names in that Toronto line up that will be on their opening night roster.
     
  16. Nauzhror

    Nauzhror Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2014
    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    11
  17. Flowah

    Flowah Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    Messages:
    10,022
    Likes Received:
    391
    Trophy Points:
    124
    Lashoff to me was the epitome of safe.

    But he was the "off the glass and out" guy, not the good first pass out of the zone guy.
     
  18. RedMenace

    RedMenace **** Cancer

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,894
    Likes Received:
    190
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Location:
    Luke Witkowski's Beard
    His first pass is criminally underrated, because it was usually a safe one... but it was crisp and usually right on target.

    Again, just my opinion, but if anyone cares to look back and check, I think you'd be surprised.

    (Not that I expect anyone to actually do that. :D)

    Okay, I'm done derailing the GDT. My apologies.
     
  19. Pavels Dog

    Pavels Dog Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2013
    Messages:
    11,075
    Likes Received:
    1,254
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Location:
    Sweden
    You don't win games at the NHL level due to guys like Lashoff. But as a #6 he probably won't be the guy you blame for losing much either. That's really all he was though.

    We need players that win us games. The reason we lose so many 1-goal games is because we already have plenty of players that don't make gamebreaking mistakes, but not enough that make gamebreaking positive plays.
     
    jkutswings, lomekian and mantha39 like this.
  20. Hinterland

    Hinterland Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2016
    Messages:
    4,556
    Likes Received:
    338
    Trophy Points:
    79
    I actually think that often times some stupid mistake cost them. Too many soft goals let in by the goalies, too many own goals scored by Ericsson, too many turnovers from careless/stupif forwards like Helm, Nyquist or Athanasiou and just bad defending overall. Defense was a joke and made too many mistakes for the team to remain competitive.
     
  21. Pavels Dog

    Pavels Dog Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2013
    Messages:
    11,075
    Likes Received:
    1,254
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Location:
    Sweden
    Mistakes are made by all teams. Last few years we've been a team where it's hard to point the finger at any 1 or 2 players being a massive problem but despite that we can't win. Ericsson, Helm, AA and Nyquist make the NHL roster on every team in the league. And in the case of Gus and AA, they are actually responsible for a lot of the gamebreaking offense we actually create. We just don't have any players that we can truly lean on to be differencemakers on a regular basis, so we play pretty evenly with other teams but they end up with the W because of 1 or 2 or 3 great plays made by elite talents.
     
  22. Shaman464

    Shaman464 #FireHolland

    Joined:
    May 1, 2009
    Messages:
    5,340
    Likes Received:
    553
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Occupation:
    Virologist/Immunologist
    Location:
    Desert USA
    Calling either of Gus or AA gamebreaking shows how pathetic the Red Wings forward core is. AA does 4-5 times a year what real gamebreakers do nightly. Nyquist is even more laughable, he's a third line winger on a good team.
     
  23. KJoe88

    KJoe88 Registered User

    Joined:
    May 18, 2012
    Messages:
    5,989
    Likes Received:
    332
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Location:
    Dearborn, MI
    What’s laughable is that you think Nyquist is just a third liner on a good team.
     
  24. Shaman464

    Shaman464 #FireHolland

    Joined:
    May 1, 2009
    Messages:
    5,340
    Likes Received:
    553
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Occupation:
    Virologist/Immunologist
    Location:
    Desert USA
    He was 181 in ppg of forwards who played 30+ games that puts him right at about 3rd liner on a good NHL team. Even being 150th in points doesn't help his case at all.
     
  25. TatarTangle

    TatarTangle Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2011
    Messages:
    4,019
    Likes Received:
    207
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Location:
    Detroit
    He's disappeared after that 1-2 year stretch of good hockey, I don't think it's questionable to argue that he's a 2nd-3rd line tweener seeing as he's a complimentary player.

    Can't wait for Blashill to mess this one up /s
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice
monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"