Discussion in 'Detroit Red Wings' started by Christien, Sep 29, 2018.
Cholowski out with the other three playing again. Maybe he made it?
At this point I don't see how he doesn't, but what do I know
Looks like Cholowski won a spot.
I’m going to assume 2 F and 2 D spots were up for grabs (1 D partially). I’d give the Fs to Rasmussen and Svechnikov and the Ds to Cholowski and Hronek. Hronek can QB the PP Frk is on (if he’s in the line up) and Cholowski can QB the other unit. Hronek gets sent down when Green comes back (unless he excels). Can we all agree with this?
Way to go #21... Earned that spot!
No. From last seasons defense, only DannyD, Kronwall and Jensen will be available on opening night. So 4 open spots. Maybe 3 if Ericsson or Daley feel good enough to be the scratch. I'd send down Zadina and Hronek, waive Jensen and call up Lashoff if both Daley and Ericsson can't go. Might call up Lashoff anyway and waive the other two with Jensen.
I have to disagree, Lashoff is terrible. Jensen is better than him at everything in my opinion...
Honestly pretty much everybody is better than Jensen...and Daley and Ericsson aren't much better.
(Lashoff fanboy post incoming)
Jensen and Lashoff are two entirely different players.
I've never understood the Lashoff hate. He's a big, understated, safe, stay-at-home defenseman, with a good first pass out of the zone. He's not flashy, he doesn't score goals, and his skating is average, but on a 3rd pairing and the PK he gets the job done. He's also pretty good at pinching in the offensive zone to support the forwards to keep the puck deep.
Finally, he punishes people in front of the net with his stick... it's why I like to affectionately refer to him as Slashoff.
I don't know, it's all optics and opinions. I like Lashoff, and I know a lot don't. Oh well.
Lashoff apparently has a torn ACL anyway.
Brian Lashoff Fantasy Hockey News
It's unclear if he'll play through the injury for the Griffins but that certainly means he has no business being on the Wings.
He doesn't have the foot speed to play in the NHL. If I want a guy that is big and to clear the front of the net with troubling skating it is easily McIlrath for me. He will have the same problems as Lashoff at times, but he is a big body that enjoys throwing his weight around and protects his teammates.
Lashoff is a big guy. He is a guy I want them to keep in GR and heck make him the C as he can help an organization. But he isn't a NHL player for me. Not in the way we talk about Jensen, who struggles at times but is a passable #6/7 Lashoff really is a good #10 or lower to have in your organization. As the game got even quicker a guy like Lashoff lost a lot of his use.
McIlrath is a lot slower than Lashoff and less mobile as well.
I haven't seen a lot of McIlrath, but Lashoff is far from a bad skater. I do wish he was a little meaner and more physical because of his size, but he is what he is. Granted he's 28, the same age as Dekeyser, so maybe there's still room for improvement, but meh, not going to lose any sleep over it.
Besides, I always liked his game more than Brendan Smith's, so there's no accounting for taste.
Definitely only a couple names in that Toronto line up that will be on their opening night roster.
Lineups tonight for #RedWings vs. @MapleLeafs at @LCArena_Detroit 7 p.m on FSD. Hicketts, Sulak and Hronek on defense and Zadina in, one final chance before roster decisions.
10:53 AM - Sep 29, 2018"
I thought last night was supposedly Zadina's last preseason game?
Lashoff to me was the epitome of safe.
But he was the "off the glass and out" guy, not the good first pass out of the zone guy.
His first pass is criminally underrated, because it was usually a safe one... but it was crisp and usually right on target.
Again, just my opinion, but if anyone cares to look back and check, I think you'd be surprised.
(Not that I expect anyone to actually do that. )
Okay, I'm done derailing the GDT. My apologies.
You don't win games at the NHL level due to guys like Lashoff. But as a #6 he probably won't be the guy you blame for losing much either. That's really all he was though.
We need players that win us games. The reason we lose so many 1-goal games is because we already have plenty of players that don't make gamebreaking mistakes, but not enough that make gamebreaking positive plays.
I actually think that often times some stupid mistake cost them. Too many soft goals let in by the goalies, too many own goals scored by Ericsson, too many turnovers from careless/stupif forwards like Helm, Nyquist or Athanasiou and just bad defending overall. Defense was a joke and made too many mistakes for the team to remain competitive.
Mistakes are made by all teams. Last few years we've been a team where it's hard to point the finger at any 1 or 2 players being a massive problem but despite that we can't win. Ericsson, Helm, AA and Nyquist make the NHL roster on every team in the league. And in the case of Gus and AA, they are actually responsible for a lot of the gamebreaking offense we actually create. We just don't have any players that we can truly lean on to be differencemakers on a regular basis, so we play pretty evenly with other teams but they end up with the W because of 1 or 2 or 3 great plays made by elite talents.
Calling either of Gus or AA gamebreaking shows how pathetic the Red Wings forward core is. AA does 4-5 times a year what real gamebreakers do nightly. Nyquist is even more laughable, he's a third line winger on a good team.
What’s laughable is that you think Nyquist is just a third liner on a good team.
He was 181 in ppg of forwards who played 30+ games that puts him right at about 3rd liner on a good NHL team. Even being 150th in points doesn't help his case at all.
He's disappeared after that 1-2 year stretch of good hockey, I don't think it's questionable to argue that he's a 2nd-3rd line tweener seeing as he's a complimentary player.
Can't wait for Blashill to mess this one up /s
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