Because using a team stat - wins - tells you absolutely nothing about how the goalie performed.....
You have a goalie who stops 2/30 shots and loses still played a much better game than the goalie who let in 4/30 and won. To say otherwise you’re just giving the goalie credit for the team’s forwards outscoring his lousy play.
It’s a terrible way to evaluate goaltending - for backups or starters. And the idea that we should evaluate backups differently than starters is also bunk. Yes they’re likely not going to be as good as a starter, but the fundamentals remain the same - how many pucks can they stop.
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so? again, it's the backup. why does it matter? they are playing at most on a good team 20-25ish games on their own, more often than naught in crappy circumstances, and in stretches where they hadn't played for a month - they don't need to paint Picasso's out there, they need to play well enough to win. the end. and regardless if you consider it a team stat or not for a backup goaltender, his numbers should not matter as much as the starter. According to - to goalies and goalie coaches, backups and starters train differently, they have to prepare differently, and they work differently, simply due to that fact.
yet - we're supposed to compare them
similarly? i don't see (truly) how someone who sees 25% of work and their conditions are never the same as one who sees 75% of work should be held to the same criteria.
i think for players like sparks or pickard or whomever they are gonna bring up as the future starter (because Freddy's contract ends in....3? I wanna say 3 years?) i would argue that they eventually will be playing more than 25% and working towards being the starter so how they actually look (and train etc) and their numbers) will matter, because it will have a larger impact over time.
but the career backup guy it's not so much important. or it shouldn't.
Respectfully disagree with you and Noodles, Daisy. I'm not arguing that wins are not more important, I believe that regardless of starter or backup, the chances of a goalie getting the W increase as the Save % improves.
that's fair. for me, I can admit i i'm very Jon Snow on this matter, which is why i defer to the people who currently do work in the field for goaltenders. they say it shouldn't matter so much for a backup, and i tend to agree with him when he says it shouldn't matter as much as if he's capable of a win. (and Noodles, is always self depreciating about his career, but he actually had really swell numbers until he didn't and he knew it was time to hang it up, so I do'teven think this is a "well i was crap thus why should it matter." thing.
i also feel this might come off (again) as if this means I want McBackup to stay here - i have zero horses in this race, (and i expect the organization to ensure the guy they spent a tonne of time developing (Sparks) to get some actual NHL time now for the next few years (or trade him for someone who can).
