Trade: Manny Machado to the Dodgers for 5 prospects

[N o o d l e s]

Diaz, Bannon and Kremer are all very good pieces. Admittedly idk much about the other two.

 

[BMOK33]

The SP market is barren unless you want to hand over most of your farm for deGrom.

The Mets are insane for not moving both him and Syndergaard for that exact reason. Not only do you probably get back 7-10 top prospects but you probably lose 100 games the next two years and draft two studs

 

[Tecumseh]

I don’t see the logic in this move by LA. Their offense is pretty good as it is. They lost last year because once again Kershaw failed them in a big spot. Their pitching depth is the issue more than anything.

No, that was Darvish.

 

[Say Hey Kid]

Congrats to the Os for not giving cash. If the Cubs lose, I'd have rooted for the Dodgers anyways.

 

[BMOK33]

No, that was Darvish.

Kershaw imploded in one of the Houston games though when they gave him either a 4-0 or 5-0 lead in the first few innings. You can’t do that mid series when you’re the ace of the staff. That may have been the eventual 14-13 game or whatever

 

[rangerssharks414]

Congrats to the Os for not giving cash. If the Cubs lose, I'd have rooted for the Dodgers anyways.

They did give money.

 

[Tecumseh]

Kershaw imploded in one of the Houston games though when they gave him either a 4-0 or 5-0 lead in the first few innings. You can’t do that mid series when you’re the ace of the staff. That may have been the eventual 14-13 game or whatever

Kershaw stopped the bleeding in the 7th game after Darvish couldn’t last two innings and failed in the situation that the Dodgers acquired him for. People just love pointing to Kershaw as a scapegoat to cover up for other failures on that team. How about Bellinger’s 17 strikeouts? Jansen wasn’t very good in that series either especially compared to what he did in the NLDS and NLCS. I’m sorry but one game where neither starting pitcher did well didn’t prevent the Dodgers from winning the Series.

 

[MMC]

They did give money.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Unfortunately, Kershaw is going to be blamed until they finally win one. Look at Ovechkin. It wasn't his fault that his team couldn't get over the hump, but he got blamed anyway.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Oh, I thought I saw the opposite before. My bad.

 

[BMOK33]

Unfortunately, Kershaw is going to be blamed until they finally win one. Look at Ovechkin. It wasn't his fault that his team couldn't get over the hump, but he got blamed anyway.

Up until this year Ovechkin was pretty bad in the postseason in big spots. Zero OT goals and it felt as if all his goals always came early on in games. When they needed him late he was always shooting wildly and missing the net. I’ll never forgot being at MSG maybe in 2012 for a playoff game vs the Caps and with 5 mins left or so the Rangers take 2 penalties. The next two minutes was bad shot after bad shot by Ovechkin and I remember thinking this guy is never winning anything

 

[Halladay]

Unfortunately, Kershaw is going to be blamed until they finally win one. Look at Ovechkin. It wasn't his fault that his team couldn't get over the hump, but he got blamed anyway.

He had a 3 run lead in game 5. He had a chance to put all his critics to silence. Unfortunately for him it didn't happen.

 

[MMC]

Teams finally announce it.

 

[The Night King]

He had a 3 run lead in game 5. He had a chance to put all his critics to silence. Unfortunately for him it didn't happen.

Not every pitcher can be Superman. I bet everyone already forgot how a couple years ago Kershaw came in to relieve Jansen and close the NLDS.

He's had some dominant games in the postseason, and often pitching on short rest. But most baseball fans don't remember that.

Dodgers would most likely be WS champions if not for Darvish being a complete dumpster fire. When one of your starters can't go 2 innings it throws your entire pitching into chaos, especially when guys like Morrow and Jansen are already overused.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Unfortunately, Kershaw is going to be blamed until they finally win one. Look at Ovechkin. It wasn't his fault that his team couldn't get over the hump, but he got blamed anyway.

But he actually deserves criticism as he's underperformed various times in the postseason. At some point it's more than just bad luck.

 

[JWK]

This Michael Duarte guy needs better sources

 

[rangerssharks414]

This Michael Duarte guy needs better sources

I have no idea who that is. (Yes, I saw the tweet that was posted, but I still have no idea what his affiliation is.)

 

[bluesfan94]

Diaz, Bannon and Kremer are all very good pieces. Admittedly idk much about the other two.

Valera was in the Cardinals org at one point. He’s meh.

 

[third man in]

Valera was in the Cardinals org at one point. He’s meh.

He's 26 already. He was the throw in.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Up until this year Ovechkin was pretty bad in the postseason in big spots. Zero OT goals and it felt as if all his goals always came early on in games. When they needed him late he was always shooting wildly and missing the net. I’ll never forgot being at MSG maybe in 2012 for a playoff game vs the Caps and with 5 mins left or so the Rangers take 2 penalties. The next two minutes was bad shot after bad shot by Ovechkin and I remember thinking this guy is never winning anything

Well you thought wrong.

 

[DougieSmash]

meh return...

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Kershaw has been uneven as hell is the playoffs, however when he's done Kershaw things he gets almost no recognition for it. When he has a bad game, it's all you hear about. No one is saying he hasn't been bad at times in the playoffs but his failures are overblown somewhat. He hasn't been able to go 'Bumgarner mode' in the times when he's been forced into those positions by his team, manager, other pitchers, and that is what everyone is waiting for him to do. Maybe it's not fair to ask that of him so often but when he's been in that spot he hasn't really come up big.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Kershaw imploded in one of the Houston games though when they gave him either a 4-0 or 5-0 lead in the first few innings. You can’t do that mid series when you’re the ace of the staff. That may have been the eventual 14-13 game or whatever

Darvish imploded in two World Series games including game 7. Laying this at the feet of Kershaw is just exposing your hate boner for the guy. Darvish was literally tipping his pitches.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

meh return...

What did you expect for ~65 guaranteed games?

The O's actually made out pretty well.

 

[third man in]

Yuck.

Remember these were the preseason rankings. All of these guys are having good years. Callis said the midseason rankings were 2, 15, 20, and ~ 30 which isn't bad at all. Especially coming from a deep system like LA's.