Managerial Thread - 23/24 Season - Lolverpool

[Wee Baby Seamus]

HE DID! IT WASN'T WORKING! LITERALLY EVERY UNITED FAN HERE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT IT!

yes i f***ing know i am saying that ole was whiny.

Rashford used to be known for tracking back a lot, I think possibly under Mourinho but for some reason can't be arsed to do it now. Of course there's been reports that he's been playing injured for a long time.

if he did it under one coach but not another i know what the variable might me

 

[Jussi]

if he did it under one coach but not another i know what the variable might me

Rashford's the problem? Because this is now the 3rd manager in a row when people are complaining about his lack of tracking back.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Rashford's the problem? Because this is now the 3rd manager in a row when people are complaining about his lack of tracking back.

you might want to take a look at who the three managers have been and question their spinal integrity.

 

[Jussi]

I know you'll jump in front of a bus for ETH and I know Man U fans would rather pretend that Sancho was a serial rapist instead of the guy they have replacing him, but it's so utterly apparent that Sancho was not in a good place at Man United. The same people who were applauding Dele Alli for speaking candidly about his mental health were pillorying Sancho. I'm so happy he's returning to form elsewhere, because when he's on he's brilliant. He did not do himself favours at United, but he was screwed by an absolute fools' gallery of management.

He was given more than many other players have at United. He was given time off to train in Holland by himself and get his head straight (mental health). Then when he re-joined the team, nothing seemed to have changed in his performances.

you might want to take a look at who the three managers have been and question their spinal integrity.

That's a bit hard on Rangnick and Carrick.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

He was given more than many other players have at United. He was given time off to train in Holland by himself and get his head straight (mental health). Then when he re-joined the team, nothing seemed to have changed in his performances.


That's a bit hard on Rangnick and Carrick.

united exiles some players for blinking at Ten Hag wrong and united immediately re-integrates players who call him a moron on twitter. to pretend that man u "gives players time" is hilarious, there is no rhyme or reason to how united do things.

i am not saying that sancho was not given an opportunity at Man U. but he entered a disaster zone and the management was f***ing dire.

and ah yes, players famously have huge respect for managers who are brought in with an explicit expiration date!

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Was expecting 3 pages of Liverpool's fans (mostly Savant).

This was unexpected

 

[luiginb]

Per whoscored Sancho has played in his career

75 games on RW, 7.49 average rating
72 games on LW, 7.19 average rating

He's actually got a better performance in his 20 games played as a number 10, 7.23

 

[Jack Straw]

Was expecting 3 pages of Liverpool's fans (mostly Savant).

This was unexpected

Still, quality stuff. Very solid.

 

[Chimaera]

I don't want to wade into it too far. But it also could be a bit of Sancho wanting to show United they screwed it up. He might be putting in more effort in training, practice, whatever, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect some uptick in performance. It doesn't always go that way, but he's been successful before at Dortmund.

I don't want to get into ETH too far beyond, I'm fine if he stays for as as he likes. He's a symptom of general problems at the club, but he's also likely screwed it up too far to where I don't know if he could bring it back from where it is. Neither Klopp or Pep would have likely bought Sancho. But either one of them could have gotten more out of him. How much the alienation is attempting to play his guys, establish routines in the squad, or whatever... I don't really know. I think there's ample blame to go around, along with a squad that has pretty much run off or quit on other managers.

 

[cgf]

I don't want to wade into it too far. But it also could be a bit of Sancho wanting to show United they screwed it up. He might be putting in more effort in training, practice, whatever, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect some uptick in performance. It doesn't always go that way, but he's been successful before at Dortmund.

I don't want to get into ETH too far beyond, I'm fine if he stays for as as he likes. He's a symptom of general problems at the club, but he's also likely screwed it up too far to where I don't know if he could bring it back from where it is. Neither Klopp or Pep would have likely bought Sancho. But either one of them could have gotten more out of him. How much the alienation is attempting to play his guys, establish routines in the squad, or whatever... I don't really know. I think there's ample blame to go around, along with a squad that has pretty much run off or quit on other managers.

Probably, as the kid did seem to have some maturing still to do when he left BVB the first time...but he also just seems to be enjoying life a lot more than he was in Manchester; not just on the pitch but he's actually been spotted smiling off of it.

Not many athletes can be unstoppable winning-machines like Jalen, son-of-Rick...for most of them their headspace has a huge influence on their performance.

 

[Chimaera]

Probably, as the kid did seem to have some maturing still to do when he left BVB the first time...but he also just seems to be enjoying life a lot more than he was in Manchester; not just on the pitch but he's actually been spotted smiling off of it.

Not many athletes can be unstoppable winning-machines like Jalen, son-of-Rick...for most of them their headspace has a huge influence on their performance.

I also think there's a different life situation in both scenarios. In Dortmund, while he did certainly have some of his people around him, he's in a foreign country. He doesn't have the same obligations off the pitch he likely would in England. Sure, Dortmund are a massive club, but I'm pretty sure players can be left alone a bit more than they ever would at United.

It's really hard to put the blame on any one party, but certainly ETH is not without a good share of it. He clearly can play. Though how he fits in what a manager wants to do is also something that might not mesh. He certainly wasn't a player ETH would have picked if it came down to it. You can argue that good managers would figure out how to integrate an obviously talented player... but I think you get at some of the crux of the situation here. Player nor manager really want to yield in this instance.

 

[Evilo]

 

[Peen]

Flick’s been at numerous Chelsea games since the turn of the calendar

 

[Jussi]

Per whoscored Sancho has played in his career

75 games on RW, 7.49 average rating
72 games on LW, 7.19 average rating

He's actually got a better performance in his 20 games played as a number 10, 7.23

I think he was penciled in on that role in the pre-season by either Ole or ETH.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Flick’s been at numerous Chelsea games since the turn of the calendar

he's forgotten he's not germany manager anymore and he's also not noticed that havertz and werner no longer play for us

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Lopetegui to West Ham seems close. What a lateral, uninspiring move from Moyes. The West Ham way with David Sullivan.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Lopetegui to West Ham seems close. What a lateral, uninspiring move from Moyes. The West Ham way with David Sullivan.

Insane and terrible, but I'm happy he's not going to Milan lol

 

[cgf]

Dunno how much he’s improved since leaving Germany, but that feels like a big step down from Favre.

 

[Ceremony]

Can't Ineos just buy Ten Hag a wig? Surely that's cheaper than the sort of spending spree he's proven capable of in the past.

 

[Gecklund]

Somewhat getting lost in all of this is that Antony sucks and still got picked over Sancho by ETH. Doesn't matter what side of the field. That's just bad managing.


Not many United attackers seem to be great at tracking back. Rashford definitely isn't. Maybe that's more of a coaching issue too. But you don't want to hear that about your bald buddy.

In all fairness Sancho also sucked at United.

 

[Chimaera]

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BUT HE DIDNT GET TO PICK ALL HIS PLAYERS