Management Thread II - Read OP

[F A N]

I am totally on board in saying that it is possible the team has social media guys who are going around the internet and even promoting pro management and pro ownership arguments.

It's just not the biggest troll on hfboards.

There was a time when Melvin thought I was Francesco Aquilini. I am not sure if he still thinks that.

 

[Jyrki21]

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[RandV]

Better check under your bed before going to sleep tonight.

The problem is it's dead simple to do. Doesn't take much to find online places where people gather and opinions are formed and have an employee shill for the boss/company, or it doesn't even have to be an official effort just an employee or family member doing it on there own. We have examples of several owners in NA sports doing this on twitter, and I believe years ago when 2K used to still make hockey games some EA employees were busted doing it on HFBoards.

 

[TomP24684]

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I can’t like this enough times

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

The fact that people are taking issue and arguing over fake accounts says enough to me. If I were a Benning supporter, and people mentioned these fake accounts, why would I care if they exist or not? Like what stake is there to argue this point?

It is speculation, but we have seen a new age of misinformation, trolls, bots, etc. that makes it entirely possible and believable. I remember reading that EA was creating fake accounts to boost their user review scores on games. Companies do this, and it’s only becoming more prominent as time goes by. To flat out deny it just gives it more credibility.

 

[F A N]

The fact that people are taking issue and arguing over fake accounts says enough to me. If I were a Benning supporter, and people mentioned these fake accounts, why would I care if they exist or not? Like what stake is there to argue this point?

It is speculation, but we have seen a new age of misinformation, trolls, bots, etc. that makes it entirely possible and believable. I remember reading that EA was creating fake accounts to boost their user review scores on games. Companies do this, and it’s only becoming more prominent as time goes by. To flat out deny it just gives it more credibility.

Well I don't think denying something gives it more credibility. It comes down to believability. Personally, I think it's easy to believe that fake reviews exist or politicians employing people to spread misinformation about a political opponent or companies employing people to hit message boards to spread testimonials about a product. That happens all the time. I can also believe that an organization would plant someone in the audience to ask softball questions. But to sign up for this message board? Ya I'm not so sure about that.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

Well I don't think denying something gives it more credibility. It comes down to believability. Personally, I think it's easy to believe that fake reviews exist or politicians employing people to spread misinformation about a political opponent or companies employing people to hit message boards to spread testimonials about a product. That happens all the time. I can also believe that an organization would plant someone in the audience to ask softball questions. But to sign up for this message board? Ya I'm not so sure about that.

Why is that so hard to believe? It's easy. It's free. Signing up here takes like 30 seconds. Look how many times Ryan Miller* has done it, and that's a guy with multiple bans and IP bans.

 

[Jay Cee]

Why is that so hard to believe? It's easy. It's free. Signing up here takes like 30 seconds. Look how many times Ryan Miller* has done it, and that's a guy with multiple bans and IP bans.

Whats the motive from an organizational standpoint?

"Instead of trying to win fans over I am going to troll them into submission" doesn't make any sense. He is clearly getting people talking for pages of threads. For some people that is more than enough.

Look at Pauser he has been here for like 15 years poo pooing every single move every single GM has made. Do you think he does it for his love of debating the topics of the day or the reaction he gets out of people?

 

[Jack Burton]

I wouldn't worry about the shills or the Ryan Millers here on hf...they get crushed every time

Worry what the rest of the Internet is saying about the Canucks because Aqua is listening.

The Sedins resigning.
Virtanen pick.
Pettersson.
Hughes.
Gudbranson getting traded before all s*hit broke loose with this franchise.

Stay strong HF.

Continue to question this regime and the propaganda!

Personally, when we miss the playoffs again this year..I can't wait to see the excuses!

 

[ProstheticConscience]

Whats the motive from an organizational standpoint?

"Instead of trying to win fans over I am going to troll them into submission" doesn't make any sense. He is clearly getting people talking for pages of threads. For some people that is more than enough.

Look at Pauser he has been here for like 15 years poo pooing every single move every single GM has made. Do you think he does it for his love of debating the topics of the day or the reaction he gets out of people?

The motive is to get positive discussion of the team happening. Just to get the message out there. Look at the division here. Look at anything on the main board. Do you think it's a coincidence that any move Benning makes *always* has at least some people crawling out of the woodwork to defend it, no matter how brain-dead it is?

 

[F A N]

Why is that so hard to believe? It's easy. It's free. Signing up here takes like 30 seconds. Look how many times Ryan Miller* has done it, and that's a guy with multiple bans and IP bans.

Well I'm sure some are susceptible to mob influence but I would like to think that most of us can make up our own minds here and our opinions don't change just because there are like others shouting back at us and questioning our posts. So I don't really see the point. But you are free to believe what you want to believe, conspiracy or not.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

Well I'm sure some are susceptible to mob influence but I would like to think that most of us can make up our own minds here and our opinions don't change just because there are like others shouting back at us and questioning our posts. So I don't really see the point. But you are free to believe what you want to believe, conspiracy or not.

Have you ever heard of a guy called President Trump?

Put the word out. Once it's out, it can be quoted and re-sent and retweeted. Keep it moving. The more you get moving, the more the metrics carry your message. Doesn't have to be true, doesn't have to be logical, just has to be out there and moving. Seriously, have you been living in a cave since 2016?

*edit* I mean, it's happening at literally the highest levels of government for years now. 2016 was just a proof of concept, and the world was paying close attention. Do you know the Aquamen to be super ethical people? If they can get away with it, they'll do it. This little forum here is nothing. It's one website. Takes no time to register, as I said. Even with a guy constantly rereging sock puppets who we all know is doing it the beat just goes on. It's not some grand conspiracy, it's a few people sitting at a coffee table. It's that easy.

 

[F A N]

Have you ever heard of a guy called President Trump?

Put the word out. Once it's out, it can be quoted and re-sent and retweeted. Keep it moving. The more you get moving, the more the metrics carry your message. Doesn't have to be true, doesn't have to be logical, just has to be out there and moving. Seriously, have you been living in a cave since 2016?

*edit* I mean, it's happening at literally the highest levels of government for years now. 2016 was just a proof of concept, and the world was paying close attention. Do you know the Aquamen to be super ethical people? If they can get away with it, they'll do it. This little forum here is nothing. It's one website. Takes no time to register, as I said. Even with a guy constantly rereging sock puppets who we all know is doing it the beat just goes on. It's not some grand conspiracy, it's a few people sitting at a coffee table. It's that easy.

Okay. Well you believe what you want to believe. Personally I don't really care. There's plenty of us who have posted here for years who I don't think will have their opinions changed just because it's the popular opinion. Of course some like to be on the popular side of things and have most people agree with them.

 

[Jyrki21]

Thomas Drance, being back in the fold, has a very good appearance on Dimitri Filipovic's PDOcast, and they address the question that a lot of us have asked here: why would you limit your search for a top executive to a minuscule pool of former NHL players?

Drance (who is a very, very smart dude – they both are) actually does raise some interesting points for consideration, though, for what it's worth, although one of them (the relative simplicity of the NHL's CBA compared to other sports) really just begs the question in a way that Filipovic seizes upon – "the job so easy anyone can do it!"

It's the first time I've listened to the PDOcast, but it was quite interesting:

Episode 309: Guess Who’s Back

 

[Motte and Bailey]

The motive is to get positive discussion of the team happening. Just to get the message out there. Look at the division here. Look at anything on the main board. Do you think it's a coincidence that any move Benning makes *always* has at least some people crawling out of the woodwork to defend it, no matter how brain-dead it is?

I highly doubt that anyone in the Canucks organization would go to those lengths to get people excited about the team. I think they probably just focus on building an entertaining product and let the passionate fans who see positives and want to talk about it online take care of itself.

 

[Jack Burton]

I highly doubt that anyone in the Canucks organization would go to those lengths to get people excited about the team. I think they probably just focus on building an entertaining product and let the passionate fans who see positives and want to talk about it online take care of itself.

Bwahahahahaha!

Aqua and his team have been misleading us fans for years.

You might just be a prime example of this son.

 

[Jack Burton]

The reckoning is coming and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

You've been warned.

See ya in the Tank Thread.

 

[Jack Burton]

I honestly think that we have no chance we could make Po this session.

 

[Aqualung]

Canucks Add New Hockey Operations Staff

Team scouting and operations have been shaken up a bit. Surprisingly Cloutier is gone.

 

[Guardian452]

Canucks Add New Hockey Operations Staff

Team scouting and operations have been shaken up a bit. Surprisingly Cloutier is gone.

Cloutier hasn’t been involved with hockey ops since he resigned as goalie coach before the start of the 18-19 season and Ian Clarke was hired to replace him.

 

[Hansen]

Love that Brandon Benning gets an expanded role but that role is not described at all

 

[Jyrki21]

Love that Brandon Benning gets an expanded role but that role is not described at all

I'm actually legitimately curious about this now.

 

[Zippgunn]

Peddling some conspiracy that the pro-Benning posters on here are a part of some paid PR scheme is a pretty huge low for this board, tbh

Hey remember, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean everybody isn't out to get you...

 

[ATypicalCanadian]

I'm actually legitimately curious about this now.

I don’t think we’ve even seen information on which region he scouts, but I’m guessing the WHL given the family history.

In regards to his role I’m assuming(going off what little info I could find on the amateur scouting hierarchy)he’s absorbed more arenas into his region of scouting or he’s become one of the bigger picture guys who crossover into another region who form rankings on the combined areas throughout the season.

 

[Zippgunn]

The reckoning is coming and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

You've been warned.

See ya in the Tank Thread.

No you won't...