Value of: Malkin

[Darren McCord]

Nobody is paying premium value for Letang or Malkin with their trade protection, age and cap hits.

And if they are Pittsburgh is taking back cap dumps which doesn’t align itself with why Rutherford would be moving Malkin or Letang.

Which is why Malkin and Letang aren't moving anywhere before their contracts are up. So there really isn't any way to gauge value. No reason to move either when their value to the pens is still extremely high.

 

[Anthony5967]

Must not watch the Cats.

I’m a Penguins fan.

I watch a ton of hockey. Heponiemi is not a blue-chip prospect. Weegar had a solid 45 games. Wasn't even a full season. Where is your argument?

 

[TheWayToRefJose]

DW would be looking to add Malkin to play with Hertl who is also 8 years younger than Geno. I truly don’t see any way Doug could pay the price the Pens would command for Geno while also fitting him under the cap with all of the inflated contracts we have. A Vlasic/Couture/Burns would have to go the other way.

Geno would likely be a better short term solution than Hertl. Pens only reason to get rid of him is for cap and to get younger. Couture could possibly go the other way, but he’s the C and wouldn’t be that much cheaper or younger than Geno, therefore taking away the reasons why they’d move him. We don’t have the pieces or cap room to get him for futures either. Only other even slight possibility would be something like LaBanc + TBL first + Merkley + 2021 first + Vlassic for Geno and I doubt the Pens do that.

 

[Jerkbait]

Geno would likely be a better short term solution than Hertl. Pens only reason to get rid of him is for cap and to get younger. Couture could possibly go the other way, but he’s the C and wouldn’t be that much cheaper or younger than Geno, therefore taking away the reasons why they’d move him. We don’t have the pieces or cap room to get him for futures either. Only other even slight possibility would be something like LaBanc + TBL first + Merkley + 2021 first + Vlassic for Geno and I doubt the Pens do that.

Pens laugh

 

[Gurglesons]

Geno would likely be a better short term solution than Hertl. Pens only reason to get rid of him is for cap and to get younger. Couture could possibly go the other way, but he’s the C and wouldn’t be that much cheaper or younger than Geno, therefore taking away the reasons why they’d move him. We don’t have the pieces or cap room to get him for futures either. Only other even slight possibility would be something like LaBanc + TBL first + Merkley + 2021 first + Vlassic for Geno and I doubt the Pens do that.

Seems like a lot for Malkin despite the cap dump.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

Seems like a lot for Malkin despite the cap dump.

Dude quit trying to sell Malkin for pennies. He retires a Penguin or he goes to Russia and the Penguins are okay with either one.

He would never be traded for any of these crap offers you’ve suggested in this thread

 

[TheWayToRefJose]

Pens laugh

I doubt that. Don’t think they accept because of needs, but it’s a worthwhile offer.
Late first in a very deep draft, solid middle six RFA winger, a possibility lottery first rounder, and a D man prospect with with pairing potential.

We gave up less for Erik Karlsson, who was the same caliber player and 6 years younger at the time of the trade.

 

[Gurglesons]

I doubt that. Don’t think they accept because of needs, but it’s a worthwhile offer.
Late first in a very deep draft, solid middle six RFA winger, a possibility lottery first rounder, and a D man prospect with with pairing potential.

We gave up less for Erik Karlsson, who was the same caliber player and 6 years younger at the time of the trade.

Yeah, I’d think about that deal for sure.

The big thing is Malkin probably won’t move unless he wants to and I assume he’s Florida or bust ala Phil Kessel if he wants to.

 

[Jerkbait]

I doubt that. Don’t think they accept because of needs, but it’s a worthwhile offer.
Late first in a very deep draft, solid middle six RFA winger, a possibility lottery first rounder, and a D man prospect with with pairing potential.

We gave up less for Erik Karlsson, who was the same caliber player and 6 years younger at the time of the trade.

Same caliper?? LOL...2 cups... MVP scoring title , first ballot hall of fame , vs what ?? EK was great for about 3 years..Malkin is a bona fide superstar since day one. Just cause Ott got robbed doesn't mean everyone needs to!!

 

[chethejet]

It is unlikely the Pens move Malkin as his play is improving as to his D and bonehead mistakes due to either forcing it or just inconsequential awareness. With elbow surgery and his commitment to 2 way game, sully is happy with his play. Now if the Pens get a offer they can't refuse, then yes he may be OK to go to contender like the Avs or Cunucks. Unlikely GMJR moves him to the eastern conference.

 

[Stuzchuk]

In my opinion, the team that Malkin WANTS to play for will need to send back 1-capdump, 1-young established player, 1-very good/blue chip prospect, 1-2020-1st

IE:

Evgeni Malkin (C/34)



Bobby Ryan (RW/33)
Colin White (C/23)
Drake Batherson (RW/22)
2020-1st (NYI)

 

[bobholly39]

Nobody is paying premium value for Letang or Malkin with their trade protection, age and cap hits.

And if they are Pittsburgh is taking back cap dumps which doesn’t align itself with why Rutherford would be moving Malkin or Letang.

You should consider it from Pittsburgh's perspective, vs from other teams.

If Malkin plays well - he's still in contention for the best player in the world. Literally. He was so good early this season when Crosby got injured. If you get offended by "best" in the world, let's instead say top 3 or so.
He also has a fantastic playoff track record, despite recent misses, so it's not like he can't step up in playoffs.

Pittsburgh will never get close to that value. Trading Malkin would essentially be throwing in the towel on a cup run and going for rebuild. Which would be crazy, with Crosby still at the end of his prime.

Your only option really is to ride it out with Crosby/Malkin a few more years. Tweak/re-tool around them, and hope both can perform next season and especially come playoffs. If both Malkin and Crosby perform near top of their ability in the playoffs - Pittsburgh arguably remain the team to beat, or close.

 

[ViD]

We all know Sid and Geno will retire as Penguins.

I do see Malkin returning to Magnitogorsk for his final season