Malkin wanted out if Kessel returned

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    Geno comes off like a huge diva. They are pretty much the same player except Kessel didn’t constantly take dumb penalties. But they both are offense first, defense is not their strong suit.
     
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    Not really As history has shown us but okay. This thread is proof.
     
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    Yes, because the incredible minds of HF is an amazing way to judge players.

    Calling Malkin a more talented version of Kessel is just a terrible take, there's no other way to describe it. It's just dumb and shows a fundamental lack of hockey knowledge. They're not even remotely similar players, outside of being line drivers.
     
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    Follow along. I’m referring to what this thread is about. I’m not talking in hockey terms :facepalm:

    He’s a diva like Kessel but just far more talented
     
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    You literally said "Malkin is just a more talented version of Kessel". Literally in this thread:

    Even if you're talking about effort, that's also stupid and wrong. It's just a hilariously dumb comment to make, the two players aren't similar at all when it comes to strengths, weaknesses or effort level.

    How specifically is he a diva? What has he done over his career that suggests he' a diva?

    Malkin does have his problems (inconsistency and hotheadedness are the big 2), but him being a diva isn't a credible criticism of him at all.
     
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    Lol I’ll miss Malkin screaming at Kessel on the bench.
     
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    Weird take. Can you link to the other examples of Geno having fights with his coach, or demanding new linemates, or any other actions that are diva-esque?
     
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    Good point about Crosby, some others observed that too. The laundry hasn't been aired, and maybe better that way, but it's obvious the two rarely were on the same line.

    But I'm not sure about Kessel being useless on a 3rd line. Some Pens fan argued that the Cup success was to some extent due to having three scoring lines -- particularly Kessel on the 3rd line. I haven't checked the line stats but the argument made sense.
     
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    I remember when kissile first went to Pittsburgh. It was very early in the season and in an interview Crosby made it quite clear and obvious he did not want to play on the same line.

    His comments were along the line of some guys just don't gel together.
     
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    Kessel just gives like zero f***s. Watch him play, interview, bench demeanor, etc. Even just look at his face. 3 time allstar, 2 time Stanley Cup champion and Olympian, 1 time Pittsburgh Penguin. Zero f***s given.
     
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    You'd think they'd want to keep as much talent as possible. Kessel was the main ingredient added that saw them win twice in a row. Malkin only had the one cup before that. In terms of competing I think it made more sense to compliment the existing group with a big move rather than push him out.
     
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    Kessel is a savant. He looks lost and doesn't seem to understand anything but he produces. Just haters bein' haters.
     
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    Sullivan meant way more to that group than Kessel. Kessel from 2016 also was no longer an option because he was not willing to play third line offensive driver.
     
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    Always hated Malkin(mostly from boarding Willie Mitchell and running away like a little bitch). This doesn't help.
     
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    Geno better have a monster season.
     
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    ITT: People who dont understand the penguins, malkin and kessel and why he had to be moved
     
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    I think it's one of those where you like the guy but recognize your own faults in the other dude and thus don't like his play.. I'd say Malkin probably shoulda kept his yap shut, but I also understand the sentiment. I just think it's too much of the same thing, Malkin is better, he doesn't want a guy with a similar play style damaging his own game.
     
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    So both Sid and Malkin didn’t want Kessel on their respective wings? What’s Sid’s rationale? Hmm...

    I think Kessel will do fine in AZ. He needs a creative playmaker; Keller fits the bill.
     
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    I don't know. To me he sounded like a whiney baby that's blaming someone else and random **** for his sub par play last year.
    And, what kind of "good friend" says he quits if his "good friend" comes back next year. I can do without a good friend like that.
    I know all Malkin fans will disagree, and not being a Pens fan I have no great interest how it turns out. It's just the vibe he gives off to me from the article. Could just be a cultural difference thing, too.
     
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    Being that Geno didn't say he'll quit if Phil came back...

    His whole point is that, at this stage in the game, his goal is winning another championship, and that he and Phil don't compliment each other stylistically in a way that helps that.

    Again, nobody on the Pens has really taken more wear and tear than Geno the past few years, and considering he's also the oldest player on the roster at this point, pinning him to a winger that doesn't do any dirty work at any zone of the ice isn't a recipe for success.

    End of the day, his whole point is not wanting trapped in a situation that isn't going to work, and if Phil was going to stay, they couldn't stay on the same line for too long.
     
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    So in a world where Russians are perceived as not caring enough about the cup, people get mad because a Russian cares enough about winning a cup that they are frustrated with a teammate who doesn't care enough?

    I don't see the controversy. These are human beings, after all. Not everyone wants to play with everyone for a variety of reasons.
     
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    ... Which sounds exactly like something you could sit down and sort out.
     
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    Is it weird to know so little and post it so proudly and publicly? You do know there are websites that track line deployment to the second that show you are completely and utter one million percent full of shit and have no clue how lines are set up in pitts.
     
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    you really think no one tried to sit down with Kessel and say "stop turning the puck over. stop doing stupid shit. stop making terrible decisions with the puck. give some semblance of a f*** on defence"?
     

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