Malkin vs Bergeron

[Snippit]

Pick one guy to have for this season and next

Note Bergeron was ranked ahead of Malkin going into the season on HF.

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[Midnight Judges]

Malkin is clearly the superior player. Everyone outside of Canada knows that.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

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[Empoleon8771]

I originally was going to say that who I'd pick is dependent on who else I had on my roster, but the more I thought about it, the more I was just trying to come up with excuses to say Bergeron was an equal choice to Malkin. The answer here is Malkin, and it's even stronger for Malkin if you assume that not being on Pittsburgh causes him to play like he does when Crosby is injured.

 

[I am not exposed]

Malkin has always been the better player. And still is.

 

[StoneHands]

If both are healthy it's pretty easily the gargoyle.

 

[bobholly39]

Malkin has always been the better player. And still is.

If this poll had been made a month ago id bet my house Bergeron would have won.

I agree with what you say. I disagree strongly with that always being the opinion on HF though. People thought he was done/Bergeron a top 3-5C recently

 

[Trap Jesus]

We can quantify Malkin having 27 points in 20 games being better than Bergeron's 26 in 24, but can't quantify Bergeron being the best defensive forward of all time vs. Malkin's sub-par defensive play, so logically one has to assume Malkin. Also, we can forget Bergeron putting up 79 in 65 last year vs. Malkin's 72 in 68 because that is ancient history.

 

[Emerz]

I prefer Bergeron as a Bruins fan, but understand anyone who would rather Malkin. At this point Bergeron misses ~15 games a year kinda similar to Malkin, but while he's playing he still plays at above a PPG rate and a 40ish goal pace, which is pretty ridiculous for also being arguably the best defensive forward of the decade.

 

[TheBluePenguin]

If this poll had been made a month ago id bet my house Bergeron would have won.

I agree with what you say. I disagree strongly with that always being the opinion on HF though. People thought he was done/Bergeron a top 3-5C recently

I really like Bergeron's game, like I love defensively strong guys that hold their own offensively like RoR, Bergeron, Barkov

That being said Malkin is an easy choice IMO

 

[koyvoo]

Malkin is clearly the superior player. Everyone outside of Canada knows that.

This is a very silly narrative based solely on emotion. Look at the votes for Malkin. You think those are all only non Canadians?

 

[BHD]

When both are at their absolute best, Malkin. IMHO, he’s more dominant than Crosby in that instance. The caveat, though, is that he doesn’t play at that level nearly enough. Meanwhile, Bergeron has been one of the most complete players over his career. Plus, he’s waaaay more consistent.

 

[Trap Jesus]

When both are at their absolute best, Malkin. IMHO, he’s more dominant than Crosby in that instance. The caveat, though, is that he doesn’t play at that level nearly enough. Meanwhile, Bergeron has been one of the most complete players over his career. Plus, he’s waaaay more consistent.

Bergeron maintains his same level of play in 99% of the games he plays. This is a comparison of one of the most inconsistent stars vs. one of the most consistent stars, and no one seems to value that at all.

 

[Snippit]

We can quantify Malkin having 27 points in 20 games being better than Bergeron's 26 in 24, but can't quantify Bergeron being the best defensive forward of all time vs. Malkin's sub-par defensive play, so logically one has to assume Malkin. Also, we can forget Bergeron putting up 79 in 65 last year vs. Malkin's 72 in 68 because that is ancient history.

Bergeron plays with two of the five best wingers in the game though.

 

[Regal]

We can quantify Malkin having 27 points in 20 games being better than Bergeron's 26 in 24, but can't quantify Bergeron being the best defensive forward of all time vs. Malkin's sub-par defensive play, so logically one has to assume Malkin. Also, we can forget Bergeron putting up 79 in 65 last year vs. Malkin's 72 in 68 because that is ancient history.

Bergeron doesn't come close to those numbers without two stars on his line, and last year was one of Malkin's worst offensive years and Bergeron's best. Bergeron's consistency and all around play make it close but let's not pretend Malkin isn't a vastly superior offensive player. I think people forget that Malkin has been consistently very good before last season, he just missed time. The 5 previous seasons, he finished 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 7th and 2nd in points per game. This year he's currently 8th, and will probably move up given how he's looked. Also, even their current paces are a difference of 21 points over a full season.

 

[Kranix]

They're both bandaids but Malkin is better.

 

[authentic]

I originally was going to say that who I'd pick is dependent on who else I had on my roster, but the more I thought about it, the more I was just trying to come up with excuses to say Bergeron was an equal choice to Malkin. The answer here is Malkin, and it's even stronger for Malkin if you assume that not being on Pittsburgh causes him to play like he does when Crosby is injured.

Imagine Malkin spent his peak seasons on a line with current Marchand and Pastrnak, it would be a comical show of dominance.

 

[BHD]

Bergeron maintains his same level of play in 99% of the games he plays. This is a comparison of one of the most inconsistent stars vs. one of the most consistent stars, and no one seems to value that at all.

Consistency is the main reason I would go with Bergeron over Malkin. However, being a Pens fan, I’ve seen enough of peak Malkin to go with him. Likewise, I’m sure Bruins fans feel the same about Bergeron. They’ve seen him play a 200ft game on a nightly basis for years.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Malkin's peak level of play is so high i will always go with him in this scenario. Even if inconsistent and injured during the regular season, he's capable of turning it on and leading the playoffs in scoring (see 2017). He can also carry a line by himself, whereas Bergy is on an absolutely stacked line.

 

[EdzosCrayon]

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[Turin]

Ignoring the defense part for a second, can we just image what Marchand-Malkin-Pasternak would do to teams? It’d be disgusting.

 

[filinski77]

I would say the gap of Bergeron > Malkin defensively is pretty much the same as Malkin > Bergeron offensively. I don't look too much into their recent offensive numbers, because Malkin drives his own line, and Bergeron is the 3rd offensive wheel on a line that has 2 of the top 10 forwards in the game.

Considering a forwards primary job is offence, I would easily go with Malkin here.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Bergeron maintains his same level of play in 99% of the games he plays. This is a comparison of one of the most inconsistent stars vs. one of the most consistent stars, and no one seems to value that at all.

Malkin doesn't get to play every shift with Marchand and Pastrnak. Heck, look at Malkin's production this year when he's got Guentzel and Rust on his line, who are obviously "inferior" versions of those two in Boston. How much more if he had "better" versions of those guys.

Bergeron is obviously better defensively, but I'm not sure the gap offensively can be waved way because of that.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

We can quantify Malkin having 27 points in 20 games being better than Bergeron's 26 in 24, but can't quantify Bergeron being the best defensive forward of all time vs. Malkin's sub-par defensive play, so logically one has to assume Malkin. Also, we can forget Bergeron putting up 79 in 65 last year vs. Malkin's 72 in 68 because that is ancient history.

An individual forward can impact the game far, far more offensively than on defense, it's just the nature of the sport.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Malkin and it’s not even AINEC