News Article: Malkin Opens up about 18-19 season

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  1. Soggy Biscuit

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    Every stat shows that the difference between this year and last year for Geno and Kessel was JJ. It went from an imperfect union to an untenable problem.

    Don't be surprised when similar problems arise for the new configuration of the 2nd line. Malkin and Galchenyuk deserve an opportunity to succeed.
     
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    Um... anyway... I love how Rossi's article information turned from "Malkin demanded a trade if Kessel was still on the team like a little whiny baby man" to "Malkin preferred they not be linemates and felt better if they spread the wealth and in fact are friends" in record time.

    Shocked.
     
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    That’s what the article quoted Malkin as saying all along. The more juicy elements came from other people in the org, though Rossi did go as far to say that Malkin himself thought Kessel had become complacent.

    It’s not great journalism as far as I’m concerned but in this specific case I believe it.
     
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    Well that's not how most seemed to interpret it. Though obviously I know that's not REALLY Rossi's fault, directly. As the person who asked Rossi that question a few posts up said... it created a bit of a stir.

    Pittsburgh media knows very well that the words "Malkin" and "trade" generates clicks.

    EDIT: Wait... just to clarify, you think Malkin DID ask for a trade?
     
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    I love how anyone that read the article would understand that Rossi said neither.
     
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    I mean... that's what I more or less said right away. You can scroll back before you guys' little slappy fight to look if you want.

    But reading evidently isn't a strong suit for the majority of the people that read this article considering that seemed to be the hot take everyone came away with. That was really my point... people shouldn't have fallen for Rossi's shtick.

    Though again for the record... I enjoyed the article. I just got frustrated that that was a big takeaway from a crapload of hockey fans.
     
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    I think a lot of that came from the twitter title. And once again, let’s be honest Rossi ain’t saying anything Geno doesn’t want him to.
     
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    People looking for reassurance that we made the right move with Kessel are more inclined to believe it was a "him or me" ultimatum from Malkin, even when the source himself denies it and the reporter's a known goober who they wouldn't give the time of day if it were any other subject.

    Yet some wonder why so many in Toronto believed Steve Simmons.
     
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    For whatever reason Malkin seems to trust Rossi or at least is comfortable doing interviews with him. So you aren't wrong that all of this has to at least be mostly vetted by Malkin, himself.

    That said... and maybe this is just me but... it's still Rob Rossi. I'm re-reading the article now and it's not super egregious, honestly. But I can't help but feel like it's at least a little intentionally misleading.
     
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    Difference being Rossi is just a weird dude and not someone without any sources like Simmons.
     
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    I mean, Rossi is a self admitted pro-wrestling die hard. It’s sports entertainment writing. Of course he writes with flair.

    Aside from Jesse and Gretz, I’d much rather read a Rossi take than the boring Pens speak Yohe submits. And the team (Whitney included on Chiclets today) from my perspective has always opened up to Rossi.
     
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    I feel like you are just describing yellow journalism with some, uh... "flair."
     
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    If you think there isn’t truth in what Rossi wrote about Phil and Geno’s relationship that’s your deal. It’s pretty obvious in the quotes that Malkin gave what his feelings are on Phil and what Malkin wants to do with the Pens moving forward.
     
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    Yellow journalism is sensationalism and exaggeration.

    I didn't say one word about the entire piece being a lie. Honeslty I didn't even say anything about Malkin and Kessel's relationship. I take umbrage with the section suggesting there was some sort of ultimatum involving a trade if Malkin's demands weren't met... according to sources. Besides which I'm just kinda ribbing you a little bit.

    Smoke a ripper and calm yourself. My goodness.
     
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    I am late to the party, but thank god for Sid standing up for Geno.

    And thank god for Geno standing up for himself aswell.

    Kessel's time had come and even though I am not thrilled with the return, it might be addition by substraction.
     
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    I trust Rossi's sources and takes about as far as I trust Simmons's.

    We're talking about a guy who advocated for the Pens to trade Malkin. Twice. On non-consecutive occasions.

    I'm sure Malkin had issues with Kessel being on his line. I'm equally sure that once the sources got put through Rossi's filter, they were sensationalized beyond recognition because it made good copy.
     
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    I’m pretty calm. I just think a certain sect of our fan base for some reason doesn’t believe Rossi is as connected as he obviously is. He writes for hits, just like most writers.
     
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    You really think the player who is allowing him to write the authorized biography of his career would let that fly?

    Pretty obvious Rossi just built an article around Geno’s quotes are clear as day unless you’re a Phil truther.
     
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    “Things went bad with him and the organization this year” - Elliotte Friedman

    “Kessel asked for a trade multiple times” - Jim Rutherford

    “Jim can say what he wants. He told me I’d never play for the Penguins again” - Phil Kessel

    Now this article. I distrust the media more than anybody but frankly there is too much there to suggest that Kessel wasn’t a cancer last season in the eyes of management and a distraction to the players, as much as they liked him.
     
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    Well, I mean... one can never be too calm, yeah?

    And I'll never dispute Rossi's "connected" status. Obviously he gets access. To deny that is pretty cement-headed. I just don't know how much that parlays into "accuracy" and "integrity." At least all the time. I've just read too much of his junk in the past, I guess.
     
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    The player who Rossi twice advocated the Penguins to trade? I'd think Geno would find that more disagreeable, but they were published anyway.

    Personally, I doubt Rossi gives much thought to how Geno feels about quotes from his unnamed sources and probably treats them as separate things, but that's just my take.
     
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    Having an article about the Penguins franchise does not equal writing an article with literal quotes from Geno bookended by comments from Rossi’s sources.

    I dunno, I feel like you guys are trying to equate Rossi to Madden.
     
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    Well... they both like ice cream.
     
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    I could see Rossi repping Spearmint Rhino’s too.
     
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    See? They have tons in common.

    Strippers and ice cream. The ties that bind.
     
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