Big Z Man 1990
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If the Lake Tahoe outdoor games go over well in the TV ratings, I could see this as a permanent part of the NHL schedule, but taking place with fans in subsequent seasons.
Making the Lake Tahoe games permanent
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LadyStanley
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I doubt the location would work for "with fans".
First, this rink is set up on a golf course. I doubt they'd like to have a section (permanently) removed from one of their most picturesque sections.
Second, it's situated for camera angles (away from the rink).
Third, logistics only have to accommodate two teams, officials and broadcasters for a short period of time (one weekend). Are the guys going to be dressing in a (heated) tent? AFAIK there are no (permanent) locker room facilities nearby.
Fourth, There is no "space" for stands for tens of thousands of fans. Much less all the stuff they need to attend/enjoy a game, much less parking and other considerations.
Now, if you have a 20+ thousand stadium in a picturesque location, might that have already been used for a Winter Classic or Stadium Series event (or planned for)?
First, this rink is set up on a golf course. I doubt they'd like to have a section (permanently) removed from one of their most picturesque sections.
Second, it's situated for camera angles (away from the rink).
Third, logistics only have to accommodate two teams, officials and broadcasters for a short period of time (one weekend). Are the guys going to be dressing in a (heated) tent? AFAIK there are no (permanent) locker room facilities nearby.
Fourth, There is no "space" for stands for tens of thousands of fans. Much less all the stuff they need to attend/enjoy a game, much less parking and other considerations.
Now, if you have a 20+ thousand stadium in a picturesque location, might that have already been used for a Winter Classic or Stadium Series event (or planned for)?
Djp
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Bixby Snyder
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They should have a game on an aircraft carrier.
SJSharksfan39
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I'm still surprised they are doing this and the Sharks are not even part of it. It should have been Vegas and San Jose.
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They picked 4 teams they knew would be contenders. All 4 were in the last 8 last year. It's hardly a surprise.
AintLifeGrand
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They should rotate it through various ski towns in the country . Tahoe is overrated .
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Voight
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McLane Stadium (Baylor) is one I know of. Neyland Stadium in Knoxville another one. Ohio Stadium in Columbus.
Theres some others that aren't close to NHL teams like Camp Randall & Tiger Stadium (kind of)
AdmiralsFan24
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Camp Randall isn't waterside.
Husky Stadium is right on Lake Washington. Obviously Heinz Field in Pittsburgh.
Barclay Donaldson
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The game is on a golf course, there is limited space for fans if one was to find a way to put up the grand stands for 20,000 people or so, the logistics of it being hosted yearly is fairly difficult, it's clearly a one-time gimmick during a pandemic, but yes, of course, this OP can clearly see it becoming a regular part of the NHL schedule.
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cowboy82nd
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I don’t think Tahoe is overrated at all. Maybe as a ski town, but as a picturesque town it’s awesome. My family and I go ever summer.
I really like the idea of them playing in a picturesque remote setting where they don't bother with fans. I hope they continue to do that.
I'm not that keen on the site they chose in Tahoe. Playing on a golf course is not as cool as playing on a mountain lake.
Is it that hard for them to play on a mountain lake? Ice conditions not trustworthy enough?
Also Lake Louise is much more beautiful than Tahoe. Supposedly there was some issue with signage limits in Canadian National Parks. Is it possible for the league to jettison some of it's signage? Or are they contractually obligated to put sponsor images up wherever they go? Couldn't they just virtually project ads for tv audiences?
I'm not that keen on the site they chose in Tahoe. Playing on a golf course is not as cool as playing on a mountain lake.
Is it that hard for them to play on a mountain lake? Ice conditions not trustworthy enough?
Also Lake Louise is much more beautiful than Tahoe. Supposedly there was some issue with signage limits in Canadian National Parks. Is it possible for the league to jettison some of it's signage? Or are they contractually obligated to put sponsor images up wherever they go? Couldn't they just virtually project ads for tv audiences?
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Need a Battle of Alberta on Lake Louise.
That'd be the hockey game everybody would dream of happening.
That'd be the hockey game everybody would dream of happening.
Nope.
These outdoor events are primarily for NBC and American tv viewers -- and most Americans have never heard of Lake Louise, Banff, Calgary or Edmonton, and much of Canada is vague to most. Most don't even know Toronto is in Canada, I bet! I study up on Canadian geography as a hockey fan and geography nerd, and have travelled from my America to Canada over the years to see Canadian relatives.
My parents and grandparents are Canadian, and I was almost born in Winnipeg by a few months, so no disrespect.
I recall Kelly Rippa's a.m. tv talkshow did have airings from Banff a few years ago for a week, and she seemed to really like it having been unaware of it, I believe, prior.
But the allure of Lake Louise is zilch for America -- heck, most Americans don't even know Canada has the Rockies or the Atlantic ocean. And I and they don't even know if the Pacific ocean goes into British Columbia; does it...or where does the Pacific ocean end exactly? Shame on me for not knowing (?), as it just occurred to me I don't know how close the ocean is to Vancouver Island or Vancouver or even Whistler. And I'm 60.
This is sadly a testament to American education, rather then Canada as a country (no offence to my American friends)
BattleBorn
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Outside of the last paragraph implying that Americans aren't into geography, don't look at maps or can't understand them, and have no interest in anything other than the US, there's nothing there.
All of these places are important in Canada because they're in Canada. I'm sure most Canadians would miss a few ski towns if asked to list the American ones. Hell, they might even forget that Richmond, Virginia exists, and that's just an Edmonton sized metro area.
This is my way of asking for us to raise the level of discourse above the easy stuff.
Much appreciated.
What you're saying makes sense for marketing a one-off type of event. But this is a broader issue with the league and NBC not really developing things with long term plans. The Detroit Red Wings will get them more casual fans than the Carolina Hurricanes will, so that's who they air ad nauseum, but if you want to build an audience for the long run you should show the entertaining higher-end teams and let them build a following. Likewise an event at Lake Louise would be much more aesthetically pleasing and get more people to come back to that type of franchise. The thing at the Lake Tahoe golf course looks more like pro beach hockey (!) than skating on a mountain lake.
If having an American site is that important you could use a lake at Glacier National Park, or find some place in Alaska. There's beautiful mountain lakes in both countries.
BattleBorn
50% to winning as many division titles as Toronto
I think it's safe to say that these games are in Lake Tahoe because they have larger and more available hotels than your average ski resort town so you can keep everyone close to the facility/bubbled and the teams can stay in a decently nice hotel close by. There's likely more convention space for media as well since casino hotels use conventions to drag in customers.
The skating on a frozen lake thing is probably just opportunistic marketing based on the location than an actual feeling for the setting to invoke.
The wood cabin thing is scaffolding covered by printed tarps. They're not going for reality here.
The skating on a frozen lake thing is probably just opportunistic marketing based on the location than an actual feeling for the setting to invoke.
The wood cabin thing is scaffolding covered by printed tarps. They're not going for reality here.
JMCx4
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And have Thelma & Louise deliver the game puck to center ice in their blue '66 T-bird.
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