Makar vs Jokiharju

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Cale Makar vs Henri Jokiharju

  1. Cale Makar

    73.5%
  2. Henri Jokiharju

    26.5%
  1. thomast

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  2. Howie Hodge

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    Neither without seeing them both play some reasonable amount of time in the NHL.....
     
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    Probably the one who plays on top pair in NHL.
     
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    We are comparing young kids without any pro experience at prospects forum. These forums are made for creating discussion and debate not for talking about flowers or only about already established players. If you can’t form opinion about these two players without see them both playing in NHL for decent amount of time then you don’t have to.
     
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  6. Howie Hodge

    Howie Hodge I Am The Walrus

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    Sorry old boy, didn't mean to piss in your wheaties!

    Hope the poll goes well from here in!
     
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    Makar has elite talent
     
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    DominicBoltsFan Advanced stats are good!

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    I’ll take Cale though Jokiharju is doing pretty nicely in Chicago
     
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    I'll take Makar and that sky is the ceiling potential he has.

    Playing top pair for Chicago isn't all that impressive because of how bad Chicago is without Crawford.

    Using the "he is in the NHL now and is playing because of a lack of options on a bad defense" argument is flawed.

    Jokiharju is fine and all but he doesn't have the talent or skillset that Makar does in the long run.
     
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    People will take Makar just because he was a top 5 pick, but looking at the stats I have no problem Jokiharju
     
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    I’d hedge towards Makar’s dynamic abilities but I would not begrudge anybody for taking the Jokiharju at this point. The kid has adapted to the NHL beautifully and in a NHL draft class that is looking loaded with blueline talent in retrospect - he’s starting to feel to me like the one guy outside the very top who just has the all-around game to be a rock of a top pairing defender and when he’s leading the post-Keith Hawks blueline on both sides of the ice and soaking up 25 minutes per game we are all going to be thinking “the Hawks got this guy at the back end of the first round???”.
     
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    People are taking Makar because of his talent and skills. He's got game breaking potential. They aren't taking him cus of draft pedigree.
     
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    I think there’s more to it than his draft pedigree.
     
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    That would work if that was the only reason he was in the NHL. He is in the NHL because he belongs here, and is doing a great job on the top pair with Keith, and basically helped Keith shutdown McDavid last night.
     
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    Jokiharju now (seeing as how he's in the NHL and doing a damn good job of it), Makar future (has a little bit higher upside). Seeing as how I'm a Hawks fan, I'm giving the edge to Joki.
     
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    Still Makar for me.
     
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    Because they have such comparable stats lol. People are taking Makar because he is an elite talent, which was also why he was picked 4th overall. They do correlate you know.
     
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    Makar. Been a huge fan of Jokiharju since before the draft but this one isn’t close for me.
     
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    The only reason this is even a comparison is because Jokiharju is in the NHL putting up good production and Makar is still developing. However, I'm not going to change my opinion on the two based on 10 NHL games from Henri. Makar AINEC.
     
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    This. Except for it's close.
     
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    Cale Makar didn’t have impressive season last year? He wasn’t even top D in scoring on his team? Jokiharju had over 2x more production than next D on his team. In your opinion they were not even in comparison last year? He is 7-8 months younger and already plays in leading role for his club? and your saying ainec?
     
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    surprised the poll result is this lopsided

    don't mind makar winning but thought it would be really close, voted jokiharju
     
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    Kdotsection88 Kaner? I hardly know her

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    I'll go joki cuz I'm biased but cant go wrong with either one.
     
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    You're going to use Makar being in a brand new league on a brand new team in a season that's already over as a basis for right now? Impressive. Look what he's doing THIS year. Nobody is saying Jokiharju is bad. They're saying Makar has higher potential. There's nothing false there.

    Makar is developing nicely. He isn't in a position where he has to be on the Avs this season. I'm glad Chicago found a nice little gem that isn't over his head in an incredibly small sample size. I'll still take the dynamic ability Makar has.
     
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    Homer vote for Joker.
    The kid looks really good already at 19 yrs old.
    Excited about his future.
     
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