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Makar vs Heiskanen

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MrHeiskanen

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Ivan13 said:
Are you saying Niedermayer is better than Leetch?



Something tells me you have no idea how Makar plays the game. And FYI, development isn't linear.

Also, Heiskanen was 4th in PK TOI per game among Stars defenseman. Let's not pretend he was a major lynchpin in their PK. You guys have a great player on your hands, he is doing wonderful and should for many years, but that doesn't mean Makar can't be better long term.
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4th TOI PK for 19 year old defenseman my dude. Makar will be 0 minutes a season later.
 
MrHeiskanen

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Ivan13 said:
Sure, it's not that he is killing them in NCAA. Care to share the Eurojackpot winning numbers while you're behind your crystal ball?
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Wow a 1998 born player is killing PK in the NCAA.. lets give this dude an award.
 
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MrHeiskanen said:
Well he is getting that for be a dominant offensive defenseman.
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No, he's getting it for being dominant all over the ice.

Quinn Hughes may have an even higher offensive ceiling, but Makar blew him away for the Baker this season because he has been dominant both with the puck & against it.
 
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cgf said:
No, he's getting it for being dominant all over the ice.

Quinn Hughes may have an even higher offensive ceiling, but Makar blew him away for the Baker this season because he has been dominant both with the puck & against it.
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Okay, I look forward to him dominating all over the ice in the NHL next year, PP, PK, etc. and playing 23 mins a night.
 

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cgf said:
No, he's getting it for being dominant all over the ice.

Quinn Hughes may have an even higher offensive ceiling, but Makar blew him away for the Baker this season because he has been dominant both with the puck & against it.
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From what I've seen, he makes tons of mistakes defensively but is able to patch them up with his superior skating.

If that doesn't work in NHL anymore, he'll just make tons of mistakes, right?
 
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MrHeiskanen said:
Okay, I look forward to him dominating all over the ice in the NHL next year, PP, PK, etc. and playing 23 mins a night.
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Nah, let's go full strawman & say that he'll win the Norris right out of the gates! :rolleyes:
ijuka said:
From what I've seen, he makes tons of mistakes defensively but is able to patch them up with his superior skating.

If that doesn't work in NHL anymore, he'll just make tons of mistakes, right?
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That's not what any of us have seen...so sure, whatever floats your boat.
 
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TruePowerSlave said:
MrHeiskanen sure is taking this poll seriously LOL

How dare anyone vote for Makar!
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I mean, the dude is older and has been playing in a sub-standard league compared to Heiskanen for 3 seasons in a row. It's just obvious to me who is better and playing in the better leagues.
 
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MrHeiskanen said:
I mean, the dude is older and has been playing in a sub-standard league compared to Heiskanen for 3 seasons in a row. It's just obvious to me who is better and playing in the better leagues.
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Development is not linear and never has been. The age/league argument doesn't fly, especially when both are from the same draft and Makar is clearly the best player in the NCAA.

Heiskanen can certainly be the better player, but its still very much open for debate.
 
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MrHeiskanen said:
I mean, the dude is older and has been playing in a sub-standard league compared to Heiskanen for 3 seasons in a row. It's just obvious to me who is better and playing in the better leagues.
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But he’s dominating that substandard league.

Yes, the smart money would be on Heiskanen at this point, but if you aren’t giving a Makar a shot, then you’re not giving him enough respect. Smart hockey people are expecting Makar to be an elite #1D in the NHL.
 
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tucker3434 said:
But he’s dominating that substandard league.

Yes, the smart money would be on Heiskanen at this point, but if you aren’t giving a Makar a shot, then you’re not giving him enough respect. Smart hockey people are expecting Makar to be an elite #1D in the NHL.
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I believe Makar will have a big impact in the NHL, but his overall game just isnt there compared to Heiskanen. The dude will put up the points and have some sick highlight reels to go with it. But for a 200 foot and overall game/impact on the team its Heiskanen.
 
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Realistically you have to vote for the guy who's showing results at the NHL level now.

That said, it's funny how many people are coming into the thread spewing the idea that Makar is basically some glorified 4th forward who doesn't play defense. The kid is the real deal in every zone, and absolutely has the potential to be an elite 200ft defenseman in this league.
 
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